I was very curious if anyone could help me

I have two working line GS puppies from totally different breeders and they are being raised and trained separetly.

I have been doing tonnes of socializing with these two and found they react very differently to most situations.

My one boy (Niko)is extremely curious about everything and anything, he went through a fear stage of about 1 1/2 weeks were anything strange or noisy would freak him out but now nothing seems to faze him, but he notices everything around him, sounds, people, animals ect. Stops and stares, sometimes barks(tail up, ears up) sometimes goes over to investigate if possible. Major prey drive, very quick to learn and wants to please.

My other boy (Chevy)goes anywere, no reation to strange things, animals,ect. sometimes with people he wants to go over to say hello, nose is mostly to the ground and away he goes, no fear periods so far, good prey drive but not so nuts as my other boy, but great food drive, also very bright, more aloof expecially with other people extremely affectionate with me.

Here's my question by the above references would anyone be able to tell me which pup seems better suited for schutzhund work, both have hard, full bites on soft tugs, again Niko is more intense right now but he is also more mature at this stage he is 12 weeks 31lbs slim, were Chevy is 12 weeks 20lbs slim and looks 2 months younger then Niko.

I would realy appreciate any insight you may have as most on this board have had experience with multiple working dogs. I'm just really curious which personnality is better!

Thanks in advance

This is a somewhat vague and pointless (for lack of a better word) question.

Depending on the lineage, both pups may develop and mature differently.

Also it sounds like you're somewhat "naive" in regardless to the drive development (???) to ask this question so soon? Maybe I'm wrong.

Are you doing the same amount and level of drive development with both pups? Are you using any videos (i.e. Leerburg, etc)to help you with the imprinting on these pups?

I think it will be hard to say which pup is better now considering the age, not being present to see them, not knowing how much you have worked with the two, etc

I would probably try to proactively decide what avenue I want to take these pups and gear my training towards achieving that goal

JMO

Good luck! ;-)

Perhaps if new to the schutzhund sport and working line dogs is the same a niave then so be it.

I was just trying to get some insight from the experienced board members, I realize that both pups have a lot of maturing to do, I realize that personnalities may and will change, and I realize that nobody can tell me which pup will be the better schutzhund prospect from a few words.
But I also know that most experienced competitors have had to judge young pups to determine suitablility, temperment ect. and had hoped that someone could perhaps shed some light on which pup at this stage sounds like one that they would be most interested in.

I have several of Ed's video's, several books on dog development, schutzhund training, puppy raising ect. I do the same socializing, drive developing ect with both pups,
they both come from SchIII parents.

My question was one of couriosity and not one of absolute
certainty. It is just natural to compare each and since this is my first time with working line German Sheperds and being very excited about the upcoming training
I asked this board for their opinion. I apologize in advance if I offended anybody with my interest that wasn't the intention!

Petra,
It sounds like you have 2 good pup's. It really is a little early to make any determinations between the two. Are you planing on training them both or will you decide later on just one to focus on? Alot of deciding between the two pups will come down to handler preference as it sounds like both dogs have good potential.

Thanks Jason,

I would ideally love to train both of them but time will tell as you can probably tell I've got lots of time on my hands I was a stay at home mom , now that both kids are in their late teens I've got time to kill. We have always had GS as pets and I've always been interested in Schutzhund and SAR so I thought what better time then now, I was interested in both of these breedings and it just so happens both became available at same time. Niko is line bred: Ciro z Pohranicni straze (5x3)(5x6). His dad is 2x regional champ and once National champ, among others.
My other boy is from german lines.

No offense taken Petra. Just trying to help here and perhaps you just worded your question where I couldn't quite get the point.

But so much can happen with these pups from now til when they are older. The best thing is to continue to introduce new environments to the pups while they are going thru fear stages, etc. Also good socialization will help you in the long run as well.

As for the drives, the more confident one sounds nice while the one with the over abundance of drives sounds like fun too.

Depending on what you are looking with either (or both) of the pups will have a lot to do with which may be better suited for that.

Hi Petra...

The following may sound wierd, but it's not.

If you have two good dogs, and you are not thinking of high level "sponsored" sport competition, the dog that is the better prospect is not exactly relevant, and is hard to determine without close (and somewhat prolonged) scrutiny. Having said that, someone that's very good at picking pups and has enough time, can quite possibly identify each individual's "skill set", and talk to you about your dogs' potential.

I started out by writing that if you have two good dogs, I think your question is irrelevant, because the development for EACH dog will be a direct result of how you read each one, how you adapt and plan each individual's training, and how you execute (this last part includes with which one you make less mistakes FOR THE PARTICULAR DOG and with which dog you take advantage of more training opportunities).

Finally, I think there is the "intangibles" part. Specifically, you may "like" one more than the other, and vice versa. This is likely, and does have an effect.

Thanks guys,

I really do appreciate the input, over the next couple of months I am going to visit a couple of Schutshund clubs in the area to watch the dogs being worked ect. And hopefully find one that fits in with my expectations and training style, and hopefully find someone who can help me furthur along in my quest for a schutzhund title, I'm really trying to be careful here as I have heard some horror stories of really good dogs being wrecked by unfit helpers ect.

Thanks again.