I'm doing some research on the various agitation muzzles available as I'll be looking to purchase one in the next couple of months...I noticed that Leerburg sells the Frabo police muzzle...and just wanted to know what is (if any) the difference between this and the so called German weave basket type muzzle...other than the price!
There's so many types out there...but to me quality, function, and safety and the most important. And I can honestly say that I had bought a leather agitation collar from Ed years ago and it is the BEST collar I've ever owned. I've never seen leather so strong and at the same time so soft and supple. It will definitely last me through SEVERAL dogs! lol It was money well spent!
I've used muzzles with bite bars in the past...but today, I'm not sure that I want to go back to one with a bite bar for safety reasons...
Can people tell me what they use and why...PM or email me if you wish; since I'm not sure if its ok to post this...
Mike J Schoonbrood Webboard User Reg: 04-30-2005
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I don't know what the difference is but my helper uses a muzzle very similar to the Frabo muzzle. They look nicer too, but I don't think there's much of a safety difference between them, it looks like its more a look/comfort thing. I could be wrong.
My boy got a padded leather agitation harness from Leerburg for christmas, it's a really cool harness, looks beautiful and just about indestructable <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
After spending a huge amount of time on muzzle work int he last 20 years there are only a couple brand names I like.
AKAH and Schweikert.
These are well build muzzles for police type work. They last (don't put any kind of dressing or preservative on these, it'll make them unsafe).
Sometimes I get stuck with dogs that are hard to fit properly and then I need to use other brands and styles but only afteer I have tried everything to fit them with one of these.
Other types of muzzles might have use as "prescription" muzzles in police work such as the bite bar muzzles, and open muzzles but for normal work these are by far the best of the best.
Matthew Grubb Webboard User Reg: 09-27-2002
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The “German Basket Weave Muzzles” like the Frabo one Ed sells are the best for muzzle fighting. I have yet to see one come off…. I have yet to see a dog get injured in one….. I have yet to see a dog not be able to bark and breathe well in one….. and I have yet to see a decoy get hurt or get a finger in somewhere where it shouldn’t with a dog wearing one!!
Well,
I've gotten a couple of minor injuries from working with these. But in general they're the safest.
I did get a pretty interesting bite on my thigh when another style's buckle busted and the muzzle flopped down around the dog's neck. Fortunatly it was a nice dog and I just had four clean punctures to contend with.
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The “German Basket Weave Muzzles” like the Frabo one Ed sells are the best for muzzle fighting. I have yet to see one come off…. I have yet to see a dog get injured in one….. I have yet to see a dog not be able to bark and breathe well in one….. and I have yet to see a decoy get hurt or get a finger in somewhere where it shouldn’t with a dog wearing one!!
Matthew Grubb Webboard User Reg: 09-27-2002
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Well,
I've gotten a couple of minor injuries from working with these. But in general they're the safest.
I did get a pretty interesting bite on my thigh when another style's buckle busted and the muzzle flopped down around the dog's neck. Fortunatly it was a nice dog and I just had four clean punctures to contend with.
I've often asked handlers to keep their dogs on a long line when we are working muzzle and they don't have a good muzzle on their dog.
I've done alot of muzzle work with PSD's . We usually train about 15 new dogs a year in muzzle work .
Most of the muzzles I see are the Ray Allen leather muzzle , Hard Dogs muzzle and the German Basket Weave Muzzle . I've never seen any of these muzzles come off during training . We are very cautious to check for a proper fit though before starting .
The only injury I know of , other than alot of bruising , was to me and that was a dislocated jaw but that was my fault .
I don't like the fit though on the Hard Dogs muzzle many dogs noses seem to be pressed up against the front of the muzzle no matter how much you loosen the top strap .
Howard Knauf Webboard User Reg: 09-24-2003
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The biggest problem I have with the German Basket weave muzzle is the buckle on the chin/jaw strap. It is a pain. If you arent carefull it will unbuckle or miss the hole which can make for a situation similiar to Kevin's ordeal.
I have to correct Ed's article. The European ringtype muzzle (He cals it KNVP type Muzzle) Doesn't comme off easily if being off the right size and fitted correctly. In fact the principle off keeping the muzzle on a dogs head is the same in all type off muzzles. Judging on the photo in the article the muzzle is way to small.
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