 Czech, German and American Sheps
#104797 - 04/23/2006 09:28 PM |
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Is there a differents in these because the breeder that sold me my dog bred a czech line and a german line dog (both were imported)?
They are showlines, the mom has a ShH I.
Is my dog a American shpherd just for being born here?
I'm confused can anybody help me on this subject? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Czech, German and American Sheps
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#104798 - 04/23/2006 09:58 PM |
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Being born here doesn't make your dog "American" in the way that it's most often meant on this board.
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#104799 - 04/24/2006 08:29 AM |
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Yeah, but that's not primarily my question.
My question was if there are differences btween the czech lines and german lines, which one is most favorable and why does the american line suck as much as it does?
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Re: Czech, German and American Sheps
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#104800 - 04/24/2006 10:33 AM |
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Daniel, Mr. Frawley has an awesome article describing the main differences between German and American bloodlines. I think the answer to your question can be found there. Its under the Q&A on buying a Leerburg puppy. Arcticle # 27 "whats the difference between German and American bloodlines. That will explain alot right there!
As far as which is more desireable between German and Chech. lines....well I would have to say everyone will have an opinion on that one! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Czech, German and American Sheps
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#104801 - 04/24/2006 10:49 AM |
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Daniel, If you go to the 'Main Index' and scroll down to he "Protection Breeds of Dogs " you will see there are many threads on the different types of GSDs. American vs German, DDR, Czech, etc...
Which is best will depend greatly on what you wish to do with your dog and regardless of purpose is very much a personal opinion. You may ask 5 people and receive 5 different answers.
Our breeding program focuses only on the working lines so I can't offer much advise on showline preferences. Certainly dogs bring their own strengths and weaknesses, not only in terms of their genetic or geographic origin but also between the individual bloodlines within each group or type. While there are distinct differences in dogs from different areas, there are also differences through bloodlines and of course Showline dogs are very different from working line dogs regardless of their point of origin.
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#104802 - 04/24/2006 12:47 PM |
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Daniel, you specifically asked if being born here makes your dog American. Unless you're talking about citizenship <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />, your dog is not American. If you want to know the differences between the lines, you will be able to amuse yourself for hours if you search on this forum for "DDR", "Czech", "West", etc. as keywords...happy hunting.
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#104803 - 04/24/2006 01:03 PM |
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A Czech showline?? Usually showlines are west german or american... am I missing something?
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#104804 - 04/24/2006 03:58 PM |
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Daniel, you specifically asked if being born here makes your dog American. Unless you're talking about citizenship <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />, your dog is not American. If you want to know the differences between the lines, you will be able to amuse yourself for hours if you search on this forum for "DDR", "Czech", "West", etc. as keywords...happy hunting.
Haha <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Yeah, sorry about that.
Yeah he is a czech I know that for sure. I could ask the breeder about it. He has always told me that my pup is showline though. I'll ask him more info on where specifically the mom is from too.
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#104805 - 04/24/2006 07:50 PM |
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Daniel, is the link in your signature (Abigal vd Mueller) for your pup in question?
If so I see all German Showline in her pedigree. The father may have a Czech registration number but everything behind him is all German showline, as is the dam's.
Personally, I would consider her a German showline dog... definately not Czech.
Also, I would consider having the hips prelimed. There are many 'fast normal' or 'noch zugelassen' ratings in this pedigree and a few that are not indicated.
Good luck with her <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#104806 - 04/24/2006 09:30 PM |
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Daniel, is the link in your signature (Abigal vd Mueller) for your pup in question?
If so I see all German Showline in her pedigree. The father may have a Czech registration number but everything behind him is all German showline, as is the dam's.
Personally, I would consider her a German showline dog... definately not Czech.
Also, I would consider having the hips prelimed. There are many 'fast normal' or 'noch zugelassen' ratings in this pedigree and a few that are not indicated.
Good luck with her <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Ah yes, you are correct about the father. It just didn't pop into my head but yes. I think he was born in Czech though. I see the "Fast Normal" and the "Noch zuglassen" which I'm sorry to say hve NO idea what it means. Except for Xilo which is of course logical that it means that the hips are OK (Fair).
What what are these dogs used for, the german showline? I would imagine that they are considerably better than a American Shep. Is it possible for me to train her in shutzhund? Her dad is an excellent protection dog and I know that when Odett (the mother of my pup) got her ShH I in germany.
And yes my question does arrive from her pedigree. I will talk to the owner of the mom and dad (the breeder) because I know he will have more answers. My question here are more atteded for the general view, not just my pup in particular.
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