Puppy is forgeting housebreaking
#105084 - 04/26/2006 01:04 PM |
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My 14 week old shepherd was doing well with her potty training the last 2 weeks but the last 3 days she has been going in the home. she will just go sometimes and it looks like she is just sitting down. She did number 2 once because she had diareah but not any other time. Its only peeing, the spots are not very large. Could it be a blader infection? She has not went in her crate either but the last 3 days she has done both overnight. I do not feed her or give water after 8 pm she is in her crate at 12:00 night until 9 AM. I was walking her every 2 hours so maybe she is not trained I have slacked off on walks. If maybe she is in the crate too long and cant hold it then why did she hold it in before and not now?? Should I just take her out every 2 hours again? She goes every time I do take her out. I am confused as to why she would go in the home when she goes everytime she is taken out?
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#105085 - 04/26/2006 01:46 PM |
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Hi,
My 14 week old shepherd was doing well with her potty training the last 2 weeks but the last 3 days she has been going in the home. she will just go sometimes and it looks like she is just sitting down...... Its only peeing, the spots are not very large. Could it be a blader infection?.... She goes every time I do take her out. I am confused as to why she would go in the home when she goes everytime she is taken out?
It does sound like a possible UTI. I'd call the vet, and meanwhile I'd take her out more and keep her out longer (to give her two chances, to finish, which can be an issue with cystitis). JMO.
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#105086 - 04/26/2006 05:19 PM |
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Check with the vet about UTI.
In the mean time however, I would make sure to take your pup out every three hours during the day. I took my little pup on very short (about 1/8 mile per time) walk three times per day (once in the morning, afternoon, and evening). It wasn't until my pup hit 6 months old that I started leting him go 4 hours or more (although I try to avoid longer than that) without a bathroom break.
Going to bed at 12:00am and waking up at 9:00am is kind of a long time (in my humble opinion) at this point. I would try to get her out by 8am or even better by 7am in the morning. Make sure that you take her out first thing, even before feeding, and then take her out again once she is done eating in the morning.
Also are you cleaning the stains with an anti-bacterial cleaner like 409 or a product from a pet store? Have to get the smell gone as soon as possible and 110%.
As Leerburg always says puppy dogs need to go to the bathroom every time they get done eating, sleeping, or exercising. Plus, you need to walk out with her, holding her leash, and telling her "good outside" when she goes.
I hope that some of what I have posted will help you and that I'm not just telling you what you already know.
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#105087 - 04/28/2006 10:48 AM |
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The above advice is great, get her checked for UTI and have her out longer, and more frequently. But also know that at this age it is literally IMPOSSIBLE for her to be "housebroken".
With excellent, experienced management, a puppy at her age can appear to be housebroken. Never EVER let her out of your sight, even if you have to tie her to you to remind you to have her with you. Toss her out into the yard and praise/treat her for going every hour even that she's out of her crate. If you cannot watch her (as in, within 5' of her) then crate her and let her out every 3 to 4 hours at this point.
She SHOULD be sleeping through the night, and very shortly she should be able to go an entire workday crated without having an accident. But being out of the crate is an entirely different story.
As a matter of comparison, my Border Collie, at 8 weeks, needed me to come home and let him out mid-day, and needed an outing in the middle of the night. By the time he had been home a week, he was sleeping through the night but still needed a trip out mid-day. By FOUR MONTHS, he was going an entire work day and even sleeping in on the weekend until I woke up, no problem. He is now 6 months, and he is clean in his crate, can sleep beside me for over 12 hours in bed without a problem, but if he's playing for more than 3 or 4 hours he still needs a trip out. Play causes a more frequent need to go out.
Just keep her in your sight, and remember she is not housebroken until she's about a year old (by housebroken I mean she can be anywhere in the house, for any reasonable length of time up to 6 or 8 hours and STILL not have an accident). A puppy just doesn't have the capacity to be housebroken. With good management, she can still be very clean with supervision. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#105088 - 04/28/2006 06:49 PM |
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Just keep her in your sight, and remember she is not housebroken until she's about a year old (by housebroken I mean she can be anywhere in the house, for any reasonable length of time up to 6 or 8 hours and STILL not have an accident). That`s ridiculous. Dogs can and should be housebroken by the time they are 5 months old.
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#105089 - 04/28/2006 07:42 PM |
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Hi,
My 14 week old shepherd was doing well with her potty training the last 2 weeks but the last 3 days she has been going in the home.....
After she's been cleared (UTI), this article states in a clear and concise way just about everything that has been offered on this thread, *plus*:
http://leerburg.com/housetrainingproblems.htm
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#105090 - 05/01/2006 10:28 AM |
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So you leave a 5 month old dog running around the house unsupervised while you're not in? Bad practice... Especially for a working dog. Or maybe that's why it's "inevitable" you will lose belongings and furniture to puppies...
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#105091 - 05/05/2006 08:14 PM |
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No she is not alone she is always with me in every room If I just turn my head though I will see her just let it go. I take her out right away I know this is good but its too late she has already gone. its very small spots though I think its submissive wetting. I will bend over her to put her leash on and she goes also. She is very good though and only rips up her own toys.
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#105092 - 05/05/2006 08:51 PM |
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No she is not alone she is always with me in every room If I just turn my head though I will see her just let it go. I take her out right away I know this is good but its too late she has already gone. its very small spots though I think its submissive wetting. I will bend over her to put her leash on and she goes also. She is very good though and only rips up her own toys.
It's still happening, then....... and I assume you've increased the trips outside for potty, etc., as recommended when you first posted......
If you are in the room with her but not looking at her and she dribbles, I'm not clear on why you're thinking it's submissive urinating. She was fine, then ten days ago started to wet (small spots) both in the crate and on the floor. (I am assuming that it's happening in the crate as well as the floor by what you said in the first post about "maybe she is in the crate too long and can't hold it.")
None of this sounds like submissive urination to me, with the possible exception of wetting when you bend over her to clip on the leash.
She is alone in the crate, or in a room with you when your focus is elsewhere, and she is dribbling.
You asked if this could be a blader infection, and my own opinion is "yes, it could."
If you call the vet, s/he might say to get a "clean catch" and drop it off for a urinalysis. This is pretty simple if you get a clean, dry disposable pie pan (lots of area) to stick under her after a little urine has been expelled. What you're aiming for is urine that comes out after the area around the urethra has been rinsed by the beginning of the flow. Then you can bend the edge for the transfer to a container with a cap.
Good luck! Most UTIs (in my experience) are treated successfully as long as you don't put it off.
JMO.
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