earlier today i was just about to leave the house so was going to put my dog behind his baby gate in the utility area, kind of like a larger crate i guess <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

anyways i said to him basket (meaning go to his bedding area) he just sat there and looked at me so i told him again still didnt budge just went into a lower down so i shouted the command fairly loudly to him, still no movement i had to drag him and he was resisting all the way there which i dont get? once i got him in there gave him a cuddle etc.. let him out to play to show no hard feelings then really needed to go out so told him again to go to basket he didnt move again i had to shout and drag him in there

anyways went back towards front door and there were 2 different what looked like pee marks on the floor where he had been lying, obviously pee-ing in fear i guess but what i dont get is why he didnt respond to the command after being repremanded first time :P and why he tried not to get put back behind the gate

He knows what the command means and he follows it quite often no questions asked

is he testing me? or wha?

also he has been dis-obeying a bit recently too and im having to correct him quite a fair bit and sometimes quite roughly because he doesnt seem to be learning i mean i use ed's advice for correcting the recall but it still doesnt seem to be getting thru to him eg the other night he didnt recal and actually moved away from me when i went to get him....
i think he is maybe 11months old? could he be trying to test me or do i just have the wrong end of the stick? am i going overboard or what? it almost seems like he does things when he feels like these days..

also when i had dragged him to his bed and gave him a stroking before i left he almost seemed kinda sorry and kinda scared i persume maybe i over corrected him im not sure

maybe we have been giving him too much freedom <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> as we let him sleep under the stairs on his other bit of bedding at night


any answers or discussion would be greatly appreciated <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

The reason your dog isn't minding is bcause he doesn't know what to do, or he is too intimidated by you to do it.

You should take a tidbit of food and lure your dog to the basket (and give him the treats), rather than terrify him.

You need to work on restoring your damaged relationship with your dog. Play, and fair, fun training. I recommend the book Purely Positive training by Sheila Booth. It is sold through the Leerburg website.

How old is the dog?

Just my opinion correct me if I am wrong mods.
Dogs can display "rebellion" But if your getting results like confusion and urinating from fear. Your probably being to harsh. I agree with anne go back to treats and luring.
Also I just ordered that book and can't wait to get it.

good luck

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........ I'd take my advice with a grain of salt if I was you but..........Mike A.

I wouldn't. I would follow it exactly as written! <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

firstly mike nice post <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

maybe i didnt explain enough,

normally he goes to the basket when i ask no problems generally he gets a snack or something i would have given him a raw hide boomerang but he had to settle for some other chew bar, but i was amazed he didnt go into the basket, also before i left after the two acts of disobeying i did as you said lured him with some markies did this twice as well as well as stroking and played a lil bit with his toys as i wasnt sure if i over corrected,


also this isnt a new command we've used it i dunno maybe 4/5 months maybe more it was one of the first commands he was taught <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> along with sit etc..

he generally performs it whenever someone is cooking for a carrot or something <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

its more how im having to keep getting him to respond to a firmer tone recently,

also one post mentions about positive re-inforcement about 2/3 hours previously we had done a short clicker training session with some cheese and football (i think its called soccer in america?),

i was just amazed how he didnt do it and when i used a faily firm tone he still wouldnt go, that he had to be dragged

as well as disobeying my recall last night admittedly two dogs off the lead and him off the lead is quite a big distraction to recall from, i dont know why he isnt listening to my commands all of a sudden

i also cannot trust him in woodland areas as he tends to wonder off, maybe he has decided to be more independant now ??

IMO I won't post a long solution but I do know dogs can sense everything and they can sense your frustration. No matter what advice you choose I would always keep a calm attitude and calm but authoritative voice.

he's getting to that "butthead adolescent" stage would be my guess.

however, being firmer is not always the answer.

have you tried calling him to "come" in a happy, friendly, upbeat voice, while turning sideways to him and patting your hip?

if he comes right away when you do that, it's quite possible your level of severity earlier was too much for him, and he's becoming a bit afraid of you.

a good cardinal rule is that when a dog goes backward in training, you should, too. maybe return to clicker/reward for a little while as a refresher and see if that helps.

it's going to have to be trial and error, because much depends on your dog's individual temperament.

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IMO I won't post a long solution but I do know dogs can sense everything and they can sense your frustration. No matter what advice you choose I would always keep a calm attitude and calm but authoritative voice.

i wasnt frustrated, i asked him normally and he blatently disobeyed me, so i raised my voice to be more autoritive still didnt work, so i had to grab him and move him physically,

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he's getting to that "butthead adolescent" stage would be my guess.

however, being firmer is not always the answer.

this could be quite likely, although since that episode he seems like he wants to be with me alot more. Not sure why maybe he wasnt sure who was leading the pack?

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have you tried calling him to "come" in a happy, friendly, upbeat voice, while turning sideways to him and patting your hip?

if he comes right away when you do that, it's quite possible your level of severity earlier was too much for him, and he's becoming a bit afraid of you.

hmm i dont want him to be afraid of me <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

he's back to his normal self i guess he just doesnt like shouting and that scares him <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
he sorta sneaks along the floor out of the way if theres shouting between family members

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..... i guess he just doesnt like shouting and that scares him <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
he sorta sneaks along the floor out of the way if theres shouting between family members

You've hit on part of your answer, maybe: He associates raised voices with unpleasantness. You could practice giving him commands in a low but authoritative tone, while following Mike's suggestions.