I'm not sure if this is the right spot to be placing this, we will see. I have a malinois puppy who is a fireball - to say the least, he has a super bite and awesome drive. We are training him for schutzhund.
when agitated with the hand he is fine and does not distract him from the sleeve bite.
The issue is this, last week or so when we hold a bamboo stick for sound distraction, light taps, he lets go of the sleeve and goes for the stick,whip etc... We have stopped using the stick/whip until we can figure out how to correct this properly and keep his focus on the sleeve. Any thoughts????
I guess in a "real life" situation this would be a good thing, but he is going to be a schutzhund dog.
I would continue working without the whip/stick. "BUILD DRIVE" for the sleeve. Once you can get "FOCUS" and High Drive for the sleeve, gradually re-introduce the stick... You want to have enough drive for the sleeve, that the stick 's existence shouldn't be relevant for the dog.. The key points are to increase drive and "gradually" introduce distractions...
john is right. work without distraction first and until the work is solid. this is a fairly common problem. i've seen several do the same thing, even had one myself. the only other thing i would comment on is that you said "puppy", now how puppy of a dog are we talking about here? we all push too much too fast at some time or other and i am wondering if your dog is still too much puppy for a sleeve. you may want to go back to a tug/burlap bag or something a little less stressful. there's a big difference, you know, between working the puppy out away from the helpers body and coming in as close as they have to be to work on a sleeve. sometimes a little too much stress will cause a young dog to go for the whip in order to avoid the sleeve because they are just not quite ready for it. good luck.
if there are no dogs in heaven, then when i die i want to go where they went. ---will rogers
the dog that i had was a low trigger/threshold dog. a little nervier than i really like. she tended to work more in defense rather than prey and that was stupidity on my own part. we did the wrong sort of training with the wrong helper and the result was an inability to switch between prey and defense. often a helper who lacks experience and the ability to read dogs, will "think" he is working the dog in prey drive, but in reality he is asking for defense with his stance, position, eyes, noises, whatever. (then they have the nerve to tell you that your dog can't work in prey drive, that they are all defense.....when that is exactly what they were asking for.) live and learn i guess.
but seriously, if it looks like the helper is causing your dog to go for the stick or whip, try a different helper. if that's not possible, take a few steps backward to take some of the stress off the dog.
if there are no dogs in heaven, then when i die i want to go where they went. ---will rogers
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Puppy agitation training question? HELP
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