Dennis Jones Webboard User Reg: 06-13-2004
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My 17 month old after her second heat cycle started to get more intense. When I toss the ball she flys after it with her hackels up with some growling and when I tease her with the tug/ball/sleeve on the ground and tell her to "watch it" she'll bark at it as before but now the hackels come up there is more snapping and spit flying and the bark is deeper, she's just plan getting nasty at the whole thing.
What's going on with my pupper? All other times she's a really calm.
Dennis Jones Webboard User Reg: 06-13-2004
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OMG its gonna get worse/better??
My wife saw some of it and was frightened by it, hope she gets use to it <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
sounds like your dog is finally in the right state of drive! i personally wouldnt like it if my dog didnt snap and get nasty when i was teasing them for the toy, but i like drivey dogs!i would be excited, just wait a few more months and lets see if she goes to the next level!
Rick_Davis Webboard User Reg: 08-28-2006
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Seriously Dennis
Hackels up is IMO definantly in some form of defense drive or fear but handled agressively. It may also be chasing and seem in prey drive but hackles are usually a sign of trying to bluff off a fight or in trying to gain pack order or just play. This may also be just a play drive but does need to be in some form of check. It may also be pack drive and trying to get equel pack order with you or over your wife??? Maybe Ed should reply on this. Let's hope!
Barbara Erdman Webboard User Reg: 10-20-2005
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I don't know Dennis, but my dog used to hackle up in what I came to consider as high prey. Before she'd make a kill. When she saw a squirrel, the hackles would go up, and then she'd attempt to kill it. There was no bluff in her hackles. Challenge from a dog, hackles would go up and she'd move forward. Night time, she'd hackle up and then patrol the yard. I made her aware of them though because I've read all kinds of crazy things about what hackles mean, and I didn't want her walking around looking like what some people think is a nerve bag . If you draw her attention to them, she can learn to control them. Mine did. It also took some electricity (for lack of a better word) from the drive she was in. Prey/hunt? I would point them out, and she'd start shifting out of drive and break from her strong focus. This may sound strange but there was energy in those hackles <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> An adrenaline rush maybe.
Mike J Schoonbrood Webboard User Reg: 04-30-2005
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Hackles can mean alot of things, not just a defensive or fear response. Given the fact that this is a sudden development after 2 heat cycles, which tends to be the magic number for females, I'm inclined to think it's a dominance thing. It's impossible to say without seeing the dog, sometimes people don't notice the subtleties of what is going on that could trigger this in a dog which makes it really difficult to get all the facts on a message forum. Also don't forget that maturing bitches act really stupid around their heat cycles, sometimes they act like real sissies, sometimes they get mean.
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