 Kibble and raw...mixed feeding
#120801 - 12/13/2006 02:00 PM |
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Question: Why can't you feed raw and kibble at the same feeding time? I know this was addressed a few weeks ago...but I can't find it.
I know they digest at different rates, but why does that matter? I'm sure the different parts of my sandwich do too! I'm confused...
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Re: Kibble and raw...mixed feeding
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#120808 - 12/13/2006 02:29 PM |
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The time difference for digestion means that raw meat can sit in the stomach and intestine long enough for nasties like e.coli, salmonella, and the like to take root. Ordinarily, the short length and design of the canine digestive tract prevents these problems, b/c they're not in the dog long enough to cause him/her a problem. Kibble takes such a long time to digest that it forces the raw meat,including any possible parasites or bacterias, to hang around until it's done digesting, thus greatly increasing the chances of actually becoming sick from them. A great alternative is to feed raw in the morning and kibble at night, or use The Honest Kitchen with kibble if you must mix it in the same meal; it's raw, but has been heated enough (120 degrees) to destroy salmonella and/or e.coli and other bacteria likely to be found in the meat.
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#120810 - 12/13/2006 02:30 PM |
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Good question! I had a related thought last night: Had in the back of my mind that raw food goes through the dog's system in 4 or so hours, but kibble takes 12 hours (thereabouts). Well, lots of dogs don't get to go poop 4 hours after they eat. If they eat in the evening, like mine, the stuff's sitting in them for a lot longer. Is this really bad, or is the "goes through them quicker is gooder" a truism that's been oft repeated, never tested? 
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#120811 - 12/13/2006 02:35 PM |
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I thought that the easier-to-digest food was just digested first in the stomach, regardless of what went in with it. In other words, the meat would be digested quicker than the kibble even if it was eaten at the same time as kibble.
Not trying to be argumentative at all, just honestly confused. I know I learned this in school...can't remember.
Either way, it's easier to feed in different meal times so that's what I'll do until I'm confident enough to go completely raw.
Thanks!
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#120817 - 12/13/2006 02:54 PM |
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Well, I've never done my own studies on this, and there are people who continue to do this anyway and have been ok, but for my pups, I wouldn't chance it. I have also heard (anecdotal) of the chance for impaction issues being increased due to the differing rates. Keep in mind that each dog's system is different; my GSD could eat 13lbs of rocks and sawdust and be ok, but my APBT needs to have her meals split into smaller portions to avoid really soft, frequent stools. She has absorption issues, so just don't chance it, and feed THK w/kibble or THK w/raw.
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#120824 - 12/13/2006 04:16 PM |
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Put my dog in the camp that if I mix raw with kibble he ends up with loose stools, usually 12 to 24 hours later. I have since replaced the kibble portion of his diet with THK with good success.
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#120888 - 12/13/2006 10:33 PM |
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I missed this bit of crucial info when I first got my pup and was all excited to do the right thing and get him started on a healthy diet.
I mixed kibble and raw together during his first week. I attributed his loose stool to a new home, new kibble, etc., etc. A month later a fecal culture revealed he had salmonella 
Connie very kindly sent me a PM telling me mixing is bad for the reasons others have stated here. He had diarrhea from day 1 in our home but I still think I gave it to him (or made matters worse) by not doing my homework.
I like your posts, Amber. Your questions are frequently the same as my own 
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#120905 - 12/13/2006 11:18 PM |
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I like your posts, Amber. Your questions are frequently the same as my own
Thanks Sara! Despite how many questions I ask, I actually do a ton of independent reading and research. I just find that asking questions really clarifies what I'm reading (or lets me know if what I'm reading is bogus).
Compared to almost all people I have contact with in person, I know a zillion times more about dog-related facts than they do. Even my friend in his third year of vet school.
But when I come here, I'm blown away by how much I DON'T know. "The more you know, the less you know" and all that.
I'm thinking Connie ought to start charging for her info, or at least write a book. My goal is to someday know half of what she does!!
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#120909 - 12/13/2006 11:32 PM |
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I'm thinking Connie ought to start charging for her info, or at least write a book. My goal is to someday know half of what she does!!
If she charged a fee for Use of Links to Great and Informative Sites she would be a millionaire. My Dog Info bookmarks are growing at a crazy rate thanks to her! 
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