Dog sleeps on bed
#124391 - 01/12/2007 04:54 PM |
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I have a 6 1/2 Rottie who has slept with me since I got her at 12 weeks old. She has slept on my bed, at the foot of the bed since I've had her. She is starting to act dominate toward the other dog. I want to break her of the dominence and read that making her stay off the bed is one of the ways of doing it. I wonder if I can stop her domianting behavior and let her keep this one little thing? Anybody ever had an issue like this?
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Re: Dog sleeps on bed
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#124392 - 01/12/2007 04:58 PM |
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Dog dominance and people dominance are 2 different things. Sleeping on the bed has nothing to do with dog dominance.
What exact dominant behaviors is he displaying?
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[Re: Mike J Schoonbrood ]
#124399 - 01/12/2007 05:10 PM |
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It may just be me having anxiety. About a month ago, she almost killed my sons dog (an 8 year old Pit, who has lived with me for over a year and a half). Isis, my Rottie and Tyler, my boy have always gotten along fine. Now, I think I see her acting dominate to him, trying to start fights, and when playing...getting too rough. I'm afraid when I'm home alone with them. I feel like I lost control of her. My boyfriend tells me I am too soft on them, and I admit I am. I don't want her to start on him now that she has gotten her way and got rid of one of the other dogs in the house. She stands up to him and acts like she's going to bite the back of his neck. This is what she did just before attacking Ink, the Pit.
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Re: Dog sleeps on bed
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#124408 - 01/12/2007 05:45 PM |
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Do you have crates for the dogs? I would suggest getting a crate for both. It's the safe spot for the dog. You should read the articles(if you haven't yet) that Ed has written on dominant dogs. It sounds like your Rottie, Isis, has pretty much claimed her spot on the bed. Is the other dog(the pit) in the room when you go to bed, too? That could cause the unneccessary agression. My GSD(13 months old) gets to sleep in our room with my fiance and me, but our lab pup(13 weeks) sleeps in his crate at night. Just a suggestion, but I would get a couple dog crates and train your dog to go there(and if you can, the Pit) Not as a place to go when they're bad, just a place to get away from the other dog.
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#124412 - 01/12/2007 06:00 PM |
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That can be a territorial issue.My male Yaggo used to sleep in our room, we leave our room wide open, my female when she decided to come in later Yaggo would rumble but not react.So to avoid all that together everyone has to stay downstairs and no one is allowed upstairs with us anymore.We put a little gate in the middle of the stairs that way they could easily jump it but now at this time they all know to stay downstairs and they have their own spots to sleep and no rumbles.Our king charles is in his crate, the female is on her k9 bed , our male yaggo is everywhere he feels(downstairs)mostly against the front door looking up at the entrance of the stairs.Our young male is in his crate as well.
Everyone has a good night!
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#124413 - 01/12/2007 06:01 PM |
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Ok ,I admit it, my dogs sleep with me. but what I found that works is that the dogs understand its MY BED, your allowed on by invitation only, at no time are they allowed on the bed when I'm not there. They must wait until I give the command "HOP". Ed covers alot of this in his Basic Obed DVDs. Once you establish yourself as the HMFIC, training becomes alot easier. Again Eds Vids
and some real training localy will go along way.
(HMFIC= Head Master&Feeder In Charge )
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#124454 - 01/12/2007 10:12 PM |
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Establishing dominance is about the way you present yourself to the dog and interact with the dog, not about what you let and not let your dog do. JM$0.02.
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#124478 - 01/13/2007 07:42 AM |
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Dominance is not the right word for me, I think leadership would be more appropriate
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#124489 - 01/13/2007 09:12 AM |
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Establishing dominance is about the way you present yourself to the dog and interact with the dog, not about what you let and not let your dog do. JM$0.02. I have to agree with the basic concept of this. My example: my 6 mo old GSD pup would not stop biting me and coming at me to bite me, no matter what pratical applications of groundwork I had initially done with him. Just very recently he took a 180 degree turn, and no longer bites me and hasn't for several days. What changed? Me. I began to interact with him differently and present myself to him differently, and instead of being afraid of my hands being torn to shreds, I was able to drop the apprehension on my part everytime he was out of the crate. He probably sensed the apprehension and reacted accordingly, trying to get one up on me. Dogs aren't stupid, he knew this about me before I consciously knew it. With a few tips from one of the trainers on this forum, especially on the interaction and how I present myself (thank you Brad), I came to realize that the leadership shown with my other dogs had not yet come into play with this pup. And it wasn't just external leadership that worked (the practical application), it was internal leadership which caused the drastic happy change in my pup (and me). He is still his exuberant puppy self, and happy.
Dominance, leadership, alpha - don't know about all those terms, it used to be called "master" in days gone by. Not sure why that was dropped, probably cause it offended some people's soft feelings. I rather like the word master. I also like the concept of buddies and a team. That's my 2 cents.
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Re: Dog sleeps on bed
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#124492 - 01/13/2007 09:39 AM |
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Thanks for all your replies. The Pit no longer lives with me. She is back with my son. I have my Rottie (Isis) and Chow/Lab mix (Tyler). Isis will sleep on the bed when I'm not home. If I'm in bed, she waits for me to tell her to get up. I agree that it is the way I present myself. Isis is very acute to my feelings. If I'm stressed, she gets stressed. I am trying to be calmer around her. I don't think she realizes that the fight she had with Ink is what has caused my stress. I could not believe that she would not obey me when I was trying to get her off the Pit, I've never seen that side of her. She was crate trained as a puppy, but once she earned her freedom in the house, she never went back in there. Her spot was always right next to me. I bought her a deluxe bed and put it at the foot of my bed. She was having pain whenever she had to hop off the bed. She has never slept on it. The one time I tried to get her to sleep on it, it actually caused a fight. She did not want on it, and the other dog did not want her on it. I've been giving her glucosamine/chrodrotin for her hips, and she is no longer crying when she jumps down anymore. It seems to be working! I realize that it is me over-reacting to everything she does. If I feel that I have no control, crates it will be!
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