Valerie Tietz-Kelly wrote 01/30/2007 07:51 AM From the Ring to Ruin...good read! #126948 - 01/30/2007 07:51 AM
Valerie Tietz-Kelly Webboard User Reg: 07-26-2005 Posts: 566 Loc: NJ, USA Offline	http://www.terrierman.com/rosettestoruin.htm Val
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Alison Mayo wrote 01/30/2007 10:06 AM Re: From the Ring to Ruin...good read! [Re: Valerie Tietz-Kelly ] #126966 - 01/30/2007 10:06 AM
Alison Mayo Webboard User Reg: 03-14-2005 Posts: 471 Loc: Canyon Lake, tx Offline	Amen to that Valerie! True, so True! Top Paw Training: serving Canyon Lake & New Braunfels, San Antonio to Austin.
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Heather Williams wrote 01/30/2007 10:22 AM Re: From the Ring to Ruin...good read! [Re: Alison Mayo ] #126970 - 01/30/2007 10:22 AM
Heather Williams Webboard User Reg: 10-10-2006 Posts: 358 Loc: Toronto, ON Offline	As an ex-conformation partipant, I whole-heartedly agree. I used to show my basenji, and even though they're not a "working" breed per se, I saw how their instincts as sight hounds degraded. I was at a specialty a few years back, and you'd never believe it, but a squirrel fell out of a tree and into the middle of the ring - and only two out of 30 basenjis chased it! That's a little different from terriers too big to be terriers or st bernards with hips so bad they can't pull, but it's still something. I decided that I'm moving on to other sports, and am currently arranging to do tracking with my ridgeback puppy, who is coming home in April! I can't wait.
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Jamie Fraser wrote 01/30/2007 10:22 AM Re: From the Ring to Ruin...good read! [Re: Alison Mayo ] #126972 - 01/30/2007 10:22 AM
Jamie Fraser Webboard User Reg: 09-20-2006 Posts: 184 Loc: Indiana, USA Offline	i think i've seen this before.. has it been posted before? it's a really good read though, but i don't really think it'll get the message through to the people who matter.
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Judy Troiano wrote 01/30/2007 10:31 AM Re: From the Ring to Ruin...good read! [Re: Valerie Tietz-Kelly ] #126973 - 01/30/2007 10:31 AM
Judy Troiano Webboard User Reg: 09-22-2005 Posts: 979 Loc: New Jersey Offline	Wow Valerie, that article really opened my eyes. If I had any doubts about whether to buy another showline or "convert" to a working line GSD, that article sure solidified my position. Yeesh, I'd never recommend buying a showline anything again.
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Angelique Cadogan wrote 01/30/2007 12:26 PM Re: From the Ring to Ruin...good read! [Re: Judy Troiano ] #126984 - 01/30/2007 12:26 PM
Angelique Cadogan Webboard User Reg: 10-18-2006 Posts: 1725 Loc: Las Vegas Nevada Offline	The Bull dog skull , looks painfull to look at
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sefi sahar wrote 01/30/2007 05:54 PM Re: From the Ring to Ruin...good read! [Re: Angelique Cadogan ] #127041 - 01/30/2007 05:54 PM
sefi sahar Webboard User Reg: 11-29-2006 Posts: 167 Loc: israel Offline	Iloved the article... it makes me wonder how many breeds we actully know as they where origanly and how many just got extinct under our nose left behind aburning caricature of their orgin... sad... sefi.s israel
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sefi sahar wrote 01/30/2007 05:59 PM Re: From the Ring to Ruin...good read! [Re: sefi sahar ] #127042 - 01/30/2007 05:59 PM
sefi sahar Webboard User Reg: 11-29-2006 Posts: 167 Loc: israel Offline	jamie -the "peapoles who matters" is the ones that reads thos lines the ones that chose or now conflict between aworking dog or ashowline dog... to the showline geene pool the fight is allready lost im most breeds its now two breeds- working and non working isee any comibination between the two as ahybrid... its true im talking from another continent or continents if the situation in the other side of the world is diffrent than im sory for my mystake... sefi.s israel
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Judy Troiano wrote 01/31/2007 09:49 AM Re: From the Ring to Ruin...good read! [Re: Valerie Tietz-Kelly ] #127076 - 01/31/2007 09:49 AM
Judy Troiano Webboard User Reg: 09-22-2005 Posts: 979 Loc: New Jersey Offline	Valerie, I just had my electrician here this morning. He told me his parents used to show dogs, serious show people. His father was part of/on the board of Westminster or something to that effect. Anyway, their dog won best in show one year, a collie named King. Two days after that, someone took the dog right out of their backyard. They never saw him again . Perhaps another reason not to enter the show ring?
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Katherine Ostiguy wrote 01/31/2007 04:50 PM Re: From the Ring to Ruin...good read! [Re: Judy Troiano ] #127145 - 01/31/2007 04:50 PM
Katherine Ostiguy Webboard User Reg: 07-24-2006 Posts: 225 Loc: Offline	Excellent article. Although it was more focused towards terriers, being a Springer Spaniel person I can COMPLETELY relate. I'd love to see a skull comparison between a champion show dog and a champion field dog.
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