Hi,

Ok so my puppy seems to like his crate. Not yet as much as I'd like but he is okay in it. Sometimes when he WANTS to go out though he whines. I've been taking him outside as a correction that if whines he will just go outside and when we come back in he goes right back in even if he pee's outside. Is this good or bad?

how can I train him that whining will not get him anything?

Also I don't know if he needs to really go outside or is just whining cuz he wants to get out.

Example in the morning he will whine when he's done sleeping.
I have him sleep in his kennel by the way with the door closed in my kids' bedroom as he's their dog. Is that okay? The kids like it that he watches over them and he doesn't cry.

THanks!

 Quote: Lovella Lagdaan

Hi,

Ok so my puppy seems to like his crate. Not yet as much as I'd like but he is okay in it. Sometimes when he WANTS to go out though he whines. I've been taking him outside as a correction that if whines he will just go outside and when we come back in he goes right back in even if he pee's outside. Is this good or bad?

how can I train him that whining will not get him anything?

Also I don't know if he needs to really go outside or is just whining cuz he wants to get out.

Example in the morning he will whine when he's done sleeping.
I have him sleep in his kennel by the way with the door closed in my kids' bedroom as he's their dog. Is that okay? The kids like it that he watches over them and he doesn't cry.

THanks!

Don't reward him for whining.

I would take him outside much more often, so there's no need for potty whining. I would take him out the minute he wakes up, for example. Or wake him up when you wake up and take him right out.

Also, there are at least two threads going on right now about this. You'll see dozens of answers if you read them.

http://www.leerburg.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Board=14&Number=130317&Searchpage=1&Main=14065&Words=+Connie+Sutherland&topic=0&Search=true#Post130317

http://www.leerburg.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/125693/page/0/fpart/1

http://www.leerburg.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/122727/page/0/fpart/1

http://www.leerburg.com/forums/ubbthread...true#Post121242

http://www.leerburg.com/forums/ubbthread...true#Post114623

http://www.leerburg.com/forums/ubbthread...true#Post109044

Is taking him outside when he whines rewarding him? I would think that's not cuz he hates going outside.

Also he's still a puppy so I know he may not can hold it all night so if he whines in the middle of the night I take him out and he does go. It's just then after that he keeps whining or will whine again in like 30min-1 hour.

I'll read those threads now. Thanks!

Hi just finished reading one - is soft whimpering supposed to be okay? Or any kind of whining not okay? I think any kind should be stopped is that right or wrong?
Also if you are trying to reward for the quiet command while in their kennel how do you that? Just by saying "good quiet" or actually giving them something in their kennel for being quiet?


thanks!

Talking him out or giving attetion for any reason when whing Is rewarding. Puppy has to be quite before getting out period. Will only get worse if not

I am new to all this... but I have a 9 week old GSD. The first few days were the worst as far as whining... but what I did (and this is before I discovered this site) is that when he whined, we went out and i would say go potty, then we would come in. and i did that religously. he is now at the point where he whines very little if at all, except when he needs to go potty. right now he knows that if he whines, we go potty and thats it. i do not play or anything, until he goes potty then its a lot of praise, but that is it. Sometimes he will still whine after coming in (especially in the morning), but i ignore it. Then when hes not whining i will go and pay attention to him, feed, or whatever it is im going to do. i could be completely wrong...

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Also if you are trying to reward for the quiet command while in their kennel how do you that? Just by saying "good quiet" or actually giving them something in their kennel for being quiet?


thanks!

Oh, I would definitely mark, reward and praise for compliance.

And I really think that Marie's no-play, no-fun, potty-only response sounds good.

But I still think that pre-empting any "need" for potty whining is a good plan. Then if you are correcting for whining and rewarding for quiet, there's no confusion.

P.S. Always mark and reward after potty stream stops. Some dogs will stop peeing if you mark mid-stream, so they can get a treat.

Ok so Mitch you think by taking him out when he's whining it's rewarding? And Marie you think he will learn that if he whines means he goes out?

Ok here's my dilema I can't always take him out if he whines in the middle of the night cuz that would be so tiring. So what i've done is only take him out if he barks and then if he's whining I tell him to shhh which I probably will change to "quiet". And then during the day if he gets kenneled up and whines I take him out and I put him right back in.

Since he's a puppy 10 weeks I feel like i have to take him out if he whines cuz he has to go. I plan to completely ignore it at night unless he barks. And when he's like 4 months then I will ignore and not let him out and make him hold it until I get up cuz right now he wants to go out at 4am and I get up at 5am.

Or you could set your alarm for the usual whining time (but back 1/2 hour) and take him out before he can say anything. :>


Not sure I have that fortitude, but I'm sure someone does.

Well if I do that what is the pay off? You think he'll stop whining? or will it teach him not to?

I think he will still whine so then do I just ignore it?

Also how will I know he's outgrown having to go in the middle of the night?

And if he learns that if he whines he goes outside isn't that a good thing cuz then he'll learn to tell you that he needs to go while in his kennel? For me, and maybe this isn't the correct thinking...I would rather he tell me when he has to go then me keep taking him out over and over and guessing. I have another dog who doesn't know how to tell us so he just sits at the door forever and will not bark or anything so you constantly have to watch to see if he's at the door.

I am trying to teach the new pup to use a bell at the door and to whine/bark in the kennel. Think that's an okay plan/strategy?


i reread this and understand it now "But I still think that pre-empting any "need" for potty whining is a good plan. Then if you are correcting for whining and rewarding for quiet, there's no confusion."

But then that still won't teach him to tell me if he has to go while in his kennel right? He will just have to rely on always waiting for me to take him out? And holding it until then? Is that better for them to learn?