 excitement peeing at 7 months old?
#136733 - 04/04/2007 11:26 PM |
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My 7 month old gsd is and has been housebroken with no accidents for 3 months. Whenever he gets really excited though he will pee a little. I know he knows he is doing something wrong because he pinns his ears back and walks away from us when he does it. Its almost like saying oh no sorry guys. I say his name in an angry voice and make him go outside when he does this. When I come home and let him out of his crate, I do not say anything to him and just let him outside and he has no problems. When he gets really excited though, ie someone new sees him, friends come over, kids play with him, its his first reaction, then he is fine. I dont think its submissive because he doesnt show his belly or any other signs. He is actually jumping up and trying to play with whoever when he pees. Should he still be doing this at his age? Does he have a problem?
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Re: excitement peeing at 7 months old?
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#136784 - 04/05/2007 09:12 AM |
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Allen, saying his name in an angry voice will probably make it worse.
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#136788 - 04/05/2007 09:33 AM |
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It is submissive,they don't have to show their belly to exhibit submissive behavior. Al is right though, by talking to him in an angry voice you are reinforcing the peeing.
The key is to NOT allow him to get to the point where he is peeing submissively.
You know the triggers for it, so I would suggest you keep him out of those situations for now.
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#136791 - 04/05/2007 09:40 AM |
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I don't think the dog really has a problem, he is still growing and some dogs take longer to have full control over their bladder. It sounds submissive by the way you are describing him walking away and pinning his ears back. The best thing to do is to take him out before people come over or crate him for the time being. I had a dog that would submissively pee with one person I knew at 7 months, I no longer have the dog so I'm not exactly sure when it stopped happening (the dog is a NJ State Trooper K9 now).
Growing up, I had shepherd mixed breeds and one of them had a bladder issue till he was like 3 or older. Since I was very young at the time I thought it was hillarious. We could gently squeeze the dogs sides and he would pee automatically. 
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Re: excitement peeing at 7 months old?
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#136793 - 04/05/2007 09:41 AM |
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If you let him out of his crate and take him out with no problems because you are calm and ignore him until he is out, then there is your fix.
When people, adults or kids, come over, tell them "no touch, no talk, no eye contact" until the pup calms down. Also, do not bend over the top of the pup or try and pet the top of his head.
This is dominant behavior (dogs stand over the top of other dogs) and will make the more submissive dog react submissively.
He should actually grow out of it. Some dogs do not though, but I think it is all in the way you handle it.
If you ask people to not pay attention to the dog and they cannot resist, put the dog up. Do not allow someone to do something with your dog that you don't want.
It is really hard for some people (I know, I work with one) to resist doing what you ask.
I keep my dogs best interest in mind and people can just deal with it, or not, however the case may be.
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#136931 - 04/05/2007 10:11 PM |
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He doesnt pin his ears back or show submissiveness until he walks away knowing that he did pee. Once he accidently pees he right away turns around and says "OH SHOOT" lol well you get th point. That is when I just reinforce the "yea you did something bad". Its either his bladder muscles arnt strong yet or he has a problem. How do I know which?
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Re: excitement peeing at 7 months old?
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#137004 - 04/06/2007 10:37 AM |
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You can always have him checked at the vet for a urinary tract issue.
I would reccommend that you not discipline him like you are doing, because in all honesty he does not know that it is wrong.
If his bladder is not strong enough or it is a problem, then why are you scolding the dog?
Sounds like maybe you need to go back and do housetraining 101 again?.
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#137044 - 04/06/2007 02:11 PM |
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My GSD was a submissive urinator until he was about 11 months old. Meeting new people would set it off, and my wife coming home from work would too. Finally he got to the point that he only did it when greeting my wife, then it went away completely.
We learned to make sure he met new people outside, and took him out into the yard when my wife came home from work to greet her. Eventually, as I said, he stopped doing it at about 11 months old.
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If his bladder is not strong enough or it is a problem, then why are you scolding the dog?
Sounds like maybe you need to go back and do housetraining 101 again?.
Your right, I should be telling him how happy I am with him and start doing it with him, lol. If I dont let him know that I am unhappy with him when he does that how will he ever learn that it is a habit that should stop?
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#137518 - 04/09/2007 09:51 PM |
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If his bladder is not strong enough or it is a problem, then why are you scolding the dog?
Sounds like maybe you need to go back and do housetraining 101 again?.
Your right, I should be telling him how happy I am with him and start doing it with him, lol. If I dont let him know that I am unhappy with him when he does that how will he ever learn that it is a habit that should stop?
Excitement peeing is not deliberate. Neither is submissive peeing.
Scolding can go two ways: make it worse, or have no effect. Making it worse is more likely.
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