we got a new gs on june 12th. my sister in law fell in love with her so we thought it would be nice jester to let her have dog. she had the gs a couple of days and the dog got to hot and sister in law took dog to vet. this vet kept her until today and she was not at all satisfied with this vet so she took the dog to another vet. The 2nd vet says the dog has ingested metal or antifreeze at some point. How long would it take it to show up in the dog's system? we need help because we are just horrified at this thought. can anyone help with any info on this situation? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

You'll probably never know where the dog got whatever substance caused the problem. The most important thing here is to use this as an important lesson. The dog must be supervised or safely contained in a crate, ex-pen or dog run at all times.

You don't say how old the dog is but I would guess it's a puppy or young adult.

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we got a new gs on june 12th. my sister in law fell in love with her so we thought it would be nice jester to let her have dog. she had the gs a couple of days and the dog got to hot and sister in law took dog to vet. this vet kept her until today and she was not at all satisfied with this vet so she took the dog to another vet. The 2nd vet says the dog has ingested metal or antifreeze at some point. How long would it take it to show up in the dog's system? we need help because we are just horrified at this thought. can anyone help with any info on this situation? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

How was it diagnosed?

High pressure liquid chromatographic (HPLC) and gas chromatographic-mass spectrometric (GC/MS) is what I have read about for a definite diagnosis.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=6853412&dopt=Abstract

But if the vet did a kidney ultrasound, maybe, or saw what I have understood as extreme abdominal sensitivity (to touch), then I'm pretty sure that the time frame is hard to pinpoint.

Was the diagnosis through blood and urine samples?

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can anyone help with any info on this situation? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

http://www.petstyle.com/dog/health_well_article.aspx?id=178&section=Health%20amp%20Safety

She is an adult dog. She has been contained during the time we have had her. I also failed to mention that she is a sch1 gs. The 1st vet said that she suffered from a heat realted issue and needed to be kept watered down and her jugular kept messaged. Now today when my sister in law demanded to see the dog she was covered with her own feces and had not been taken care of so that is why my sister in law took her to 2nd vet. Now the 2nd vet says she has injested metal or antifreeze at some point. Could this have happened at the 1st vet's office? Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated

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She is an adult dog. She has been contained during the time we have had her. I also failed to mention that she is a sch1 gs. The 1st vet said that she suffered from a heat realted issue and needed to be kept watered down and her jugular kept messaged. Now today when my sister in law demanded to see the dog she was covered with her own feces and had not been taken care of so that is why my sister in law took her to 2nd vet. Now the 2nd vet says she has injested metal or antifreeze at some point. Could this have happened at the 1st vet's office? Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated

Well, she was taken to the first vet because she was already ill, right?

Is she in renal failure?

I'm not a vet but "ingested metal or antifreeze at some point" seems like a weird diagnosis without testing.

http://www.2ndchance.info/antifreeze.htm

Here is part of the timeline:

Ethylene glycol has an immediate and a long-term affect on the body. It is rapidly absorbed and metabolized once it has been consumed. Peak blood levels occur within three hours of ingestion. Within thirty minutes after drinking it, your pet will become ataxic or drunken in appearance. This phase continues for up to six hours. Eventually this tipsy behavior subsides and it appears that the problem is over. It is not however because the ethylene glycol then enters the pet’s liver and kidneys where it is oxidized into toxic metabolites that acidify the blood and destroy renal tubular cells in the kidneys.

I know the 2nd vet has done blood work but not sure if he has done any other testing yet. She was initally taken to the 1st vet for getting to hot. We was afraid that she was going to have a heat stroke. This was on Monday. My sister in law called 1st vet today wanting to see the dog and the the vet's office told her "NO, she could not see the dog." This threw up a red flag and she called her husband who is the fire chief in the town where they live and he told her that he would go and check on the dog. He called her while waiting to see the dog and she come to the vet's office too. When they brought the dog in they had wet her down and she was covered in her own feces. At this time they seen that this vet was not taking care of the dog so they removed her from them and took her to the 2nd vet's office and he is the one that has done blood work today. I am not sure about what all the medical terms you have told me about means but I have written them down and will ask the vet in the am. We are going to meet my sister in law at the vet's office the am and will find out more then. He says he is going to do more blood work tomorrow to see if levels are coming down. They are giving her a lot of fluids and antibiotics through the night and see if it flushes out the toxins. Thank you for your help and the website info. We are just horrified that how could possible heat stroke turn in to possible antifreeze/metal toxins?

I just wanted to give an update. My sister in law went to vet's office yesterday afternoon and she took her gs for a walk. Saturday she is going back once more to see how dog is doing. I thank you all for your helpful advice and answers and will keep you updated on her progress.

Today the vet did more bloodwork and said she only had maybe a couple of more days at the most. So we all made the choice for the vet to go ahead and put her to rest. She may be gone but not forgotten.