 Becoming the target - sleever/suit-wearers?
#150399 - 08/01/2007 02:29 PM |
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Sorry if this was discussed or it's too off-topic, honestly I'm just asking because I'm curious. Feel free to close if it's too stupid. :P
Those of you who wear the sleeve and do protection/police K9 and whatnot work with dogs or wear the full suits - how did you go about getting into that kind of work?
Did it just come with the type of training you're in or your own dog, or did you decide one day, "Hey, it would be really neat to be at the other end of the leash" and you found a club or trainer who needed a person to wear the sleeve/suit?
I was just curious, since I think it would certainly be an interesting experience, but I've never heard how people got to be "that guy who gets bit." I mean you can't just walk into a club and be like, "Hey, let me wear the sleeve and try this!", but what does it take to DO that?
(PS: I don't think I ever could, I'm not asking because I want to go out and experiment, it's just because that's one of those trainer positions that doesn't seem.. ultra-desirable as far as trainer assistant positions go!)
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#150402 - 08/01/2007 03:08 PM |
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on a humorous note: my 3.5 year old BEGS to be the helper...even in the middle of a session.
"daddy, daddy, DADDY !!!! I wanna be the 'mean guy'....please, please, ....PLEEEEEEEEEASE ? !!! (repeated about 7 times in rapid succession)
I've got to literally restrain him from picking up the sleeve after cleo (the dog) has 'won' it from the handler. I kick it out the door just as fast as i can to keep the kid on the couch.
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#150425 - 08/01/2007 04:56 PM |
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Haha! What a brave little boy.  It seems like an exciting part of the training, to do that work, but my fear isn't a dog coming at me, it's me reacting wrong and injuring the dog! I'm not that big and I suspect a real heavy thud would lift me right off my feet!
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#150433 - 08/01/2007 06:07 PM |
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Actually, in our club, if someone comes out to watch and wants to try it, we'll let them. Male, female, young, old. Of course it's all done under supervision and with the "right" dog so no one gets hurt or has a bad experience.
I got into it simply by being asked by the main decoy if I was interested. We try to keep a chain going of people at different levels of training so you never find yourself with only one decoy or with only one who doesn't want and/or can't do it anymore.
Ask your club's TD or head decoy. I bet it can be arranged.
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#150435 - 08/01/2007 06:16 PM |
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I got into it simply by being asked by the main decoy if I was interested.
Yup, this happened to me at a trial. Then, when I started going to the practice, I reminded them, that I wanted to volunteer should they ever need me. I think, if you can do it, and you're not scared, it's only fair to help the people who help you & your dog. And they should start you off on a seasoned dog so you can safely learn. Seasoned helper = new dog. Seasoned dog = new helper. 
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#150445 - 08/01/2007 08:06 PM |
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In 2003, my P.D. got its first dog (patrol/narcotics). When they got back from the school, the handler said that he was going to need some help with trainging, especially bite work. Four of us said we would help, I was the only one who showed up.
I got my malinois (aka. Mal) a year and a half ago and have been having a great time training with him. My wife said I needed a hobby. HA!! Bet she wishes she could take that back.
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#150473 - 08/02/2007 01:15 AM |
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Well in the army if your K9 you got to be a decoy too simple as that lol just part of the job.
I didn't even find out until recently you could get payed for being a decoy so that deffently sounds good to me :-D
I am going to Will's group in FL on the 11th and i will see how the guys there do decoy work if its close to how we do it i will deffently jump in.
Michael.West
"Everything flows down leash"
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#150474 - 08/02/2007 01:38 AM |
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At our club the decoy is training an amstaff for someone. Nobody wanted the dog to bite on him so i took the suit and that was the beginning of the end.
A few weeks ago i met someone in the street who had troubles training his GSD (first dog) I gave some pointers and went to his club to help him on the field. (apparently succesfull) They are out of decoy so 2 days ago i put for the first time scratchpants and a schtz sleeve on. quiet a different experience than a full bodysuit. Now i'm helping them out untill they find a decoy of thier own.
Greetings
Johan
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#150504 - 08/02/2007 09:29 AM |
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Thanks for the answers, guys! I always thought it was some trained position, something you had to be "in the club for X amount of time" etc. That's pretty neat - I'll check into the local clubs sometime, see what they do, since I've never been to a club before. :P Sounds like a real job, takes some nerves to be under the bite. :P
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#150510 - 08/02/2007 09:37 AM |
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Thanks for the answers, guys! I always thought it was some trained position, something you had to be "in the club for X amount of time" etc. That's pretty neat - I'll check into the local clubs sometime, see what they do, since I've never been to a club before. :P Sounds like a real job, takes some nerves to be under the bite. :P
And a lot of blue and black spots, puncture marks etc but it is fun
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