 Leave the cats alone already!
#156772 - 09/30/2007 10:12 PM |
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I am looking for some advice on how to best use the e-collar to discourage my 14 mo old GSD from annoying my cats. I have searched this forum and didn't find anything that I felt really applied to our situation.
Amara doesn't really chase the cats or seem like she wants to hurt them. She stares at them, follows them everywhere, she has snapped at their tails when they run past her. If they are standing at nose level (like on the couch) she will mouth their feet. If they are curled up sleeping somewhere, she will shove them around with her nose. She will stand at the bottom of the steps and stare so they can't come down. She knows she is not supposed to chase them, and she is long-line savvy. She will freeze if I tell her "no, leave it", but will continue to stare unless I actually go to her.
I have the Leerburg videos Basic Dog Obedience, Building Drive and Focus, Competition Heeling, and E-collar Training.
This is my first dog. She is not from working lines.
Thank you for any suggestions!
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Re: Leave the cats alone already!
[Re: Sarah Mandler ]
#156774 - 09/30/2007 10:24 PM |
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She will freeze if I tell her "no, leave it", but will continue to stare unless I actually go to her.
When she stops, redirect her into doing something that interacts with you and takes her attention off the cats.
I am not sure about the e-collar. I used an e-collar with my Mal, BUT, she is a working line dog with very high prey drive and she will kill cats. So I am not sure what I did is what you want to do to your dog.
Does she still wear a lead in the house? I would keep her on a lead so that you can tell her to leave it and redirect. Sounds as though she is not the only one that is antagonizing....cats are famous for baiting a dog and then acting innocent.... 
Oh yeah....welcome to the forum and it is great to see someone else from South Dakota... 
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#156778 - 09/30/2007 10:54 PM |
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Thanks Carol,
She knows when she has a line on, or rather, she knows when I am within reach of the other end of it. She stays next to me and doesn't get into any trouble. I had hoped I wouldn't need the line on in the house indefinately? Maybe too much to hope for to soon?
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#156779 - 09/30/2007 11:21 PM |
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Bayley, my husky/border collie 18 months old, has 3 cats. We're still working on not bugging the cats. She more or less tries to herd them and for the most part I think the cats are the instigators. She is most of the time very respectful of them, she's been smacked a few times and knows that a growl and a hiss means 'back off bozo' Alot of it from her is trying to get attention from me. My mom tells me that when I'm not home, she rarely does anything with the cats and pretty much ignores them. So I'm working on that myself, not giving her attention when she bugs the cats. She's never snapped at them, she will growl the odd time, as I have one who will try to sneak food from her bowl. He doesn't get much of a chance now that she eats raw!! Good luck with it, and like Carol said cats are great at looking innocent...when they started the whole thing, just like the Siamese cats in Lady and the Tramp!
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#156788 - 10/01/2007 07:44 AM |
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Use the ecollar, it doesn't matter if your dog is from working lines or not.
Prey drive is prey drive and the dog needs to understand the cats are not to be bothered. Staring is another form of prey drive, it's just the beginning of the stalking behavior.
use the collar as outlined on the video, it's merely an invisible leash. however you would use the leash and collar in this case, just substitute the remote.
I can walk my 8 month old VERY prey driven Malinois through our flock of guinea hens and around our 4 outside cats because one session with the collar made it clear that those animals were to be ignored. You do not have to use high level stimulation to accomplish this either,I used a very low level on my dog.
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#156823 - 10/01/2007 11:11 AM |
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Only reason I did not explain what I did with my collar is because low stim did not help....sorry about that....
I do know that it does not matter if the dog is from working lines or not, I guess I should not have added that part.... 
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#156846 - 10/01/2007 04:48 PM |
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Thanks for the help, folks. I got an e-collar yesterday (Dogtra 1700) and started conditioning today. I am quite anxious about using it properly!
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#156849 - 10/01/2007 06:01 PM |
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I got an e-collar yesterday (Dogtra 1700) and started conditioning today. I am quite anxious about using it properly!
Sarah, I'd order this right away and relieve all anxiety:
http://www.leerburg.com/318.htm
It's the must-have partner to your new e-collar. JMO.
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#156864 - 10/01/2007 09:50 PM |
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No worries Connie, I ordered it a couple of months ago and I've watched it several times. I want to be as prepared as possible, the e-collar just seems like it could be a really dangerous if used incorrectly. I am so new at all this, I would hate to mess up my dog.
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#164640 - 11/25/2007 06:24 AM |
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Our Komondor doesn't chase the cats, but he does like to lick them (which they don't love). Is that submissive behavior? Or is it something else? He is 8 months and often will lie down facing them and try to initiate play. Am I worried about this?
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