 on switching to raw
#164274 - 11/22/2007 11:22 PM |
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I haved switched to raw diet using chicken necks as my staple diet,from kibbles(althopugh more convenient) however i havent seen that much changes in my dog,.what are the more obvious benefits of raw as compared to kibbles?coz for me byfar it seems the same.unless someone sheds me light on this i might go back to kibbles for they are more convenient,thanks for advicing me in advance
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Re: on switching to raw
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#164276 - 11/22/2007 11:29 PM |
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Clean teeth, fresh breath, smaller and less smelly stools, coat condition, more energy, no grain or fillers......not to mention, overall health is better.
How long have you been feeding raw? Results do not happen overnight, but they will happen. What else besides the chicken are you feeding?
If you do end up going back to kibble (which I hoe you wouldn't), please use an all natural kibble....here is a list:
http://www.leerburg.com/all-natural%20kibble.htm
Raw is best, but these are far better than any commercial kibble that you buy at the grocery store or Wal-Mart. 
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Re: on switching to raw
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#164277 - 11/22/2007 11:33 PM |
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i just give 2 pounds of raw neck every meal time which is once daily my dog weight around 75 pounds,what other stuffs do you recommend as a supplement?
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Re: on switching to raw
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#164278 - 11/22/2007 11:36 PM |
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and yeah,i have been feeding it for 2 months now,do you think mere necks wouldnt suffice?i justified the necks coz they contain fats and proteins in which carnivores just eat in the wild,however i notice that it is easier for kibble fed dogs to gain weight faster.now here is my dilemma,how come pups fed with kibble grow faster than raw fed pupps ?
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#164279 - 11/22/2007 11:38 PM |
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#164280 - 11/23/2007 12:16 AM |
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I haved switched to raw diet using chicken necks as my staple diet,from kibbles
If you are feeding mostly necks it would seem to me that that may be too much bone, not enough meat, no organs and not enough fat (if they ate the same kinds of necks I get).
A wild carnivore would eat the whole bird, not just necks. You are trying to recreate those kinds of meat/bone/organ ratios.
What else are you feeding?
And puppies growing faster is not always a good thing. Especially with large breeds.
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#164283 - 11/23/2007 12:56 AM |
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You also need to feed organ meat once or twice a week. Beef liver would give some variety from the chicken.
Carol is right about the benefits of feeding raw.
I have also noticed that raw fed pups seem to grow more slowly than kibble fed pups, I can't say why the growth rates are different.
Kibble fed pups usually have a rapid growth period from 8-12 weeks, I'm going to guess that the raw fed pups just average out their weight gain over a longer period than kibble fed pup. Sorry I can't tell you why that is.
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#164284 - 11/23/2007 01:45 AM |
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Crap! That's what my problem is. Guess I'll have to switch back to kibble!
Don't go crazy with the organ meat. 2 times, 3 times a week max, and not too much. Organ meat for the first time may cause loose stool, so be prepared for that and don't freak out (unless it persists for several days).
Re growth: My breeder actually recommends a modified diet (half kibble, half raw) for the first year, because she feels that raw fed puppies grow too large. I haven't seen evidence to support this theory, and I'm feeding Macy all raw and just watching her weight.
The goal with a large breed dog during growth (for proper hip health) is to keep it almost as lean as possible while maintaining the health and nutrition of the animal. Exercise and a good steady raw diet contribute to good hip (and life) health.
Now if only I could feed myself with the discipline that I feed my dog with.
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#164292 - 11/23/2007 09:15 AM |
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Pups aren't suppose to have major growth spurts if you can avoid it, there not cattle getting raised for slaughter and have to get to market fast. Raw food is supposed to allow their bodies to grow at a slow and steady pace so they form into a strong healthy adult. Here is an interesting article about what goes into pet food. Please keep on the raw the benefits are lifelong. http://www.api4animals.org/facts?p=359&more=1cat=286
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#164294 - 11/23/2007 10:30 AM |
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Crap! That's what my problem is. Guess I'll have to switch back to kibble!
Re growth: My breeder actually recommends a modified diet (half kibble, half raw) for the first year, because she feels that raw fed puppies grow too large.
I know that you need to feed puppies correctly with raw diet so that they do not have health issues while they are growing.
This is a great link:
http://leerburg.com/feedpups.htm
I was really nervous to start my pups on raw, but I followed this advice and they are doing great. The female is actually a bit smaller than her siblings and they are all natural kibble fed.
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