ahhh, help!
#170503 - 12/23/2007 10:51 AM |
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i have been on a cruise this past week, and i left my small puppies to be boarded as a vet office(not my vet, they won't board dogs), and because they weren't vaccinated, a kennel wouldn't take them.
well, i just today found out, my abbi got sick while i was gone, and she tested positive for parvo. they started treatment, i am not sure how she is doing, as they are closed now. They have been pushing to vaccinate the other pups, i still won't let them. They had a brush with parvo when i first rescued them, and are, i believe, pretty much immune now, they didn't get sick this time. Abbi was much healthier, so she took longer to get sick.
I know what treatment involves, but what can i expect? She has been raw fed, no medications, nothing up until this point-i think she is doing fine now-they haven't e-mailed me or left me anymore messages. What do i need to do at home when i pick her up tomorrow? Should i isolate her? she was with the other pups up till that point, so it shouldn't matter right? sorry, i am just frazzled, i am in the airport, and i just found out all of this happened, and a break in in my house....ahhhhh. please give advice.
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#170506 - 12/23/2007 10:55 AM |
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#170515 - 12/23/2007 11:47 AM |
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How old are the pups?
How do you know they were exposed to Parvo in the past? (Distemper can have some of the same symptoms as Parvo, and I have been told that distemper has been a problem lately.)
How old were they at the time?
Did they show any symptoms from the previous exposure?
If so, how did you treat them previously?
At what age were they weaned?
When was the last communication with the boarder?
I don't mean to discourage you, but a raw-fed unvaccinated pup can still die of Parvo, or they may just be mildly sick, or show no symptoms. There is no way to know ahead of time how they are going to do. Pups in the same litter can show varying degrees of symptoms.
I would try the Tamiflu, Parvaid, and Vibactra Plus, as well as IV or sub-Q fluids if needed. Feed all the pups some raw beef liver daily to boost their immune systems. If the other pups still have strong maternal antibodies (up to 16 weeks old) they may not be susceptible (or developed their own immunity) if they have been exposed. They could still show symptoms with exposure in the future after the maternal antibodies decline.
IF you decide to vaccinate them Parvaid would give the highest titer response. If the other pups are already incubating the virus then the vaccine won't prevent the onset of symptoms.
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#170635 - 12/23/2007 09:32 PM |
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the pups are 12 weeks old now.
Abigail is my personal pup from this litter, i have had her since she was 3 weeks old. Then i rescued 4 of her littermates. They came to my house, and about 3 days later, parvo. They were tested positive, and i treated them at home. They recovered just fine. Abbi never showed any symptoms, but kept a watch on her. They were 8-9 weeks old then.
Everyone has been fine since then, but i have still been watchful. Everyone seemed healthy, and abbi was thriving. Then a few days into her boarding, she started to vomit, etc, and tested positive for parvo. She has been with the other pups all the time, and they are fine(so far).
They were weaned at 3 weeks, the jerk owners took the mom away because she was starving(apparently, they couldn't figure out to feed her more), and they have been malnourished and have stunted growth, except abbi. I took her then, at 3 weeks,bottle fed her and she is(was) exceptionally healthy.I think because she was far healthier, the parvo took longer to get to her.
I just got in to the states today. I have had a close friend give decisions on medical care, and she couldn't get up with them yesterday, or today, they were closed when she called. But, they had been calling her when things were bad, so i am hoping no news is good news. I pick them up in te morning.
I know that raw fed pups can die from parvo-what i meant was, she has been on raw food and has had no crap or chemicals/vaccines put in her, so how will her body handle all the medicines suddenly pumped into her. And should i still be isolating her-bleaching my shoes and yard, etc????? those kind of questions. I know about the treatment side. I got some parvaid the last time. and i know about the sub-q, etc.
I think she'll do well, i just don't want to be doing anything at home that will set her back.
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#170647 - 12/23/2007 11:21 PM |
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According to vaccine manufacturers there is more than one strain of Parvo, I don't know if a pup that has been exposed to one strain will show immunity to other strains. It would probably be better to keep her isolated from the other pups. She can shed the virus for about 10 days.
Bleaching everything would also be a good idea since she was probably incubating the virus before you left.
Time will tell how she does with the present treatments, without anything she probably would have been dead sooner. I hope she is strong enough to make it.
Please keep us posted.
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#170669 - 12/24/2007 10:30 AM |
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so, the vets started parvo treatment late friday, and Abigail died friday night. No one tried to notify me, or my friend, whom they had been calling, no one knew anything about this until this morning. I am more upset at the fact that they didn't even try to leave a voice message or anything. For over 48 hours, my dog was dead, and no one on my end had a clue.
I walked in to pick them up, and i knew something was off when no one would make eye contact with me-i stood in the clinic for at least 10 minutes before someone came out and told me what happened. No one there knows exactly what her treatment was, the vet who did it is out of town now-he didnt leave a log, a note or anything.
She died on her 12th week birthday, she was the pup i was going to keep. I am still in shock, and furious at the vet.
They said the other pups seemed to be thriving-but they are home and they won't eat, and i can see most of their bones-they look like the did when i rescued them. Even my chihuahua i left there won't eat, and they are so quiet and are huddling together, it breaks my heart. The other pups tested negative for parvo, i don't know if they are sick like abbi, or if they just weren't being looked after at the vet, i don't know what to do. I have sub-q fluids here ,and antibiotics too, plus some parvaid incase they start to get sick, but i have no clue what is going on-and it seems like the vet doesn't know either. I haven't gone to my own vet yet, i called them, and they said to let them fast for a day if that is what their bodies are doing anyway, and if they get worse, to bring them in. I really don't even know what to say. What can i do with Abbi's body? If i bury it, with her having parvo, will that contaminate my yard, or if i bury her in the garden, i eat the plants out of there. I have always buried my pets under some plants in my garden, but i don't know what will happen because they were never sick, just old or whatever.
I just don't know what is going on-and i want my abbi back.
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#170670 - 12/24/2007 10:37 AM |
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Mallory,
I am so very sorry, what a horrible way to find out your puppy had died. I would be extremely angry myself. Just wanted you to know my thoughts are with you.
Take Care,
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#170672 - 12/24/2007 11:00 AM |
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Oh, Mallory. No words other than I'm so sorry.
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#170674 - 12/24/2007 11:12 AM |
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Mallory,
I am very sorry to hear about Abbi. The loss of a pet is a hard one to bear.
You could have her cremated. I have two dogs in Urns here.
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#170675 - 12/24/2007 11:17 AM |
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Me too. My heart aches for you.
Di you have a vet you can trust? I would call a vet today (tomorrow being closed, I'm sure) and get info on how to care for the others.
Or puppy folks might see this. Those skinny babies need food in them, I would say..... wet food, with water to hydrate them.
I don't know..... is "fasting" OK for puppies? Are you giving baited water? Are they hydrated?
And can you have Abbi cremated and then buried where you want to, in your yard?
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