Janet Koehler wrote 01/20/2008 05:06 PM Scooting his bum across the carpet #176500 - 01/20/2008 05:06 PM
Janet Koehler Webboard User Reg: 01-15-2008 Posts: 154 Loc: Ontario, Canada Offline	Hi, Kujo lately (18months old) has been scooting his bum across the carpet. He has been wormed, so I think it is because his anal sacs are full. We live in the country, and he gets ALOT of exersize, so this has me a little confused. When I was a teenager I had a poodle that had that problem, and the vet told me it was from lack of exersize. I feel Nutro Natural. Does anyone know if there is a way to relieve him, without the vet or me squeezing his anal sacs? Any food or remedy? Thanks!
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Connie Sutherland wrote 01/20/2008 05:10 PM Re: Scooting his bum across the carpet [Re: Janet Koehler ] #176502 - 01/20/2008 05:10 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Janet Koehler When I was a teenager I had a poodle that had that problem, and the vet told me it was from lack of exersize. It's not. Can you link me to that food's ingredients?
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Connie Sutherland wrote 01/20/2008 05:12 PM Re: Scooting his bum across the carpet [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #176503 - 01/20/2008 05:12 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Oh, and no, you probably have to get the squeezing done this time (and ask for a lesson.... if you want).
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Connie Sutherland wrote 01/20/2008 05:19 PM Re: Scooting his bum across the carpet [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #176504 - 01/20/2008 05:19 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	You do want to take care of it, though, because of possible infection, impaction, etc. http://www.expertvillage.com/videos/dog-grooming-basics-glands.htm http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=2&cat=1571&articleid=510 The two of three adopted dogs I have who did have regular need for that little task when I first got them, gradually needed it less and less often (on fresh raw food), and now neither one has had a scooting thing in at least a couple of years. The compact and solid poop (I believe) from real food is what does it..... kinda keeps up with it instead of letting it accumulate. The anal glands express as they should when the poops are normal dog-poops, I think.
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Jenni Williams wrote 01/20/2008 05:22 PM Re: Scooting his bum across the carpet [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #176505 - 01/20/2008 05:22 PM
Jenni Williams Webboard User Reg: 10-06-2005 Posts: 2686 Loc: llinois Offline	Quote: Connie Sutherland  Quote: Janet Koehler When I was a teenager I had a poodle that had that problem, and the vet told me it was from lack of exersize. It's not. Can you link me to that food's ingredients? Oh, Lord. Can't be the ingredients-must be lack of exercise. Nutro Natural Choice is one of those foods that they gave a nice, natural-sounding name to, jacked up the price accordingly, and continued to fill with grain. I have heard of SEVERAL dogs having trouble with this food. I would get the anal sacs emptied, and switch foods immediately, to at least a grain-free kibble, if not raw. Here are the ingredients in all the recipes: http://www.nutroproducts.com/ncdogprod.shtml
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Janet Koehler wrote 01/20/2008 05:25 PM Re: Scooting his bum across the carpet [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #176506 - 01/20/2008 05:25 PM
Janet Koehler Webboard User Reg: 01-15-2008 Posts: 154 Loc: Ontario, Canada Offline	Here's the ingredients in decending order: Chickenmeal,Ground Rice, Rice Flour, Corn Gluten Meal, Wheat Flour, Rice Bran, Poultry Fat, Dried Beet Pulp, Natural Flavours, Soybean Oil, Sunflower Oil, Potassium Chloride, Choline Chloride, Dried Egg Product, Lecithin, Dried Kelp, Vitamin E Supplement, Ferrous Sulphate, Zinc Sulfate, Zinc Proteinate, Taurine, Biotin, Ascorbic Acid, Manganese Proteinate, Glucosimine Hydrochloride, Manganous Oxide, Condroitin Sulfate, Niacin Supplement, Calcium Panthenate,Copperproteinate, Sodium Selenite, Riboflavin Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vit D3 supplement, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex, Calcium Iodate, Folic acid.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 01/20/2008 05:29 PM Re: Scooting his bum across the carpet [Re: Jenni Williams ] #176507 - 01/20/2008 05:29 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Ah. Well, the Venison Natural Choice has: Venison Meal, Whole Brown Rice, Ground Rice, Rice Gluten, Rice Bran, Poultry Fat (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Rice Flour, Dried Plain Beet Pulp, Oatmeal, Natural Flavors.... all in the top few ingredients. Six different grain listings plus beet pulp. To the O.P., this is not the worst commercial food I have ever seen (those are largely in the waiting room at the vet's), but that is a TON of grain. It's in fractions, too, which means that (a) they are getting it as by-products from some food manufacturer (trash) and/or (b) they want to list all the parts of the grains separately so you can't tell that the combined grain is actually bigger in volume than the meat. With 6 grains in top positions, I'd bet that grain is WAY bigger than meat in this food.
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Janet Koehler wrote 01/20/2008 05:29 PM Re: Scooting his bum across the carpet [Re: Janet Koehler ] #176508 - 01/20/2008 05:29 PM
Janet Koehler Webboard User Reg: 01-15-2008 Posts: 154 Loc: Ontario, Canada Offline	Oh, thanks Jenni and Connie!
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Connie Sutherland wrote 01/20/2008 05:30 PM Re: Scooting his bum across the carpet [Re: Janet Koehler ] #176509 - 01/20/2008 05:30 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: janet koehler Here's the ingredients in decending order: Chickenmeal,Ground Rice, Rice Flour, Corn Gluten Meal, Wheat Flour, Rice Bran, Poultry Fat, Dried Beet Pulp, Natural Flavours.... Rice, rice flour, corn gluten meal, wheat flour, rice bran, beet pulp, "natural flavors" ...... Yikes.
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Janet Koehler wrote 01/20/2008 05:32 PM Re: Scooting his bum across the carpet [Re: Janet Koehler ] #176510 - 01/20/2008 05:32 PM
Janet Koehler Webboard User Reg: 01-15-2008 Posts: 154 Loc: Ontario, Canada Offline	Connie, I notice you said, plus beet pulp, I thought I read this was not good for dogs? I know we feed it to the race horses everyday.
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