I am just curious how breeders are getting such ludicrous amount of money for pups? Take the Doberman breed for example. Everywhere you go there is talk about how the breed has been “watered” down and there are only a few good working Dobermans out there. Yet time and time again you see breeders charging 1000-1500-2000-2500 for pups.

Now I understand these professionals in the sport are not back alley breeding, but if everything people say is true about the overall deficiencies of the breed how are these breeders able to charge so much?

I know just because a dog is bred from two “champions” does not mean it will become anything, but it seems if the breed is as bad of as people say it is, it might be better to pick up some 500 pups and try to find the needle in the haystack at a 4-1 ratio.

What do you guys think?

I think that a post placed by someone complaining about puppy prices that has an email address of "backyardbreeder@hotmail.com" likely has an agenda.......

 Quote: will rambeau

I think that a post placed by someone complaining about puppy prices that has an email address of "backyardbreeder@hotmail.com" likely has an agenda.......

No agenda, just trying to pick the minds of some of the finest that often complain about the breed, yet charge 2500 for a pup.

Funny, you sure do know how to welcome people to the board.

 Quote: todd faranda

 Quote: will rambeau

I think that a post placed by someone complaining about puppy prices that has an email address of "backyardbreeder@hotmail.com" likely has an agenda.......

No agenda, just trying to pick the minds of some of the finest that often complain about the breed, yet charge 2500 for a pup.

Funny, you sure do know how to welcome people to the board.

Okay, let me be the first to say I can completely understand your frustration. There is a serious issue both in the Doberman and the GSD breeds and many others for that matter. I actually just watched a very interesting show about the mechanics of canine breeding and the problems that it is facing. Since breeders are so anxious to bring the traits out that they generally only find in one or two really good dogs they end up linebreeding the snot out of most of the ones that come after. It is an unfortunate circumstance of not enough genes in the pool. I do believe, however, that the responsible breeders that really do care about the breed try to select very carefully their breeding stock and do massive amounts of research before they create a coupling. There is an old saying and that is you get what you pay for. No doubt you can pay that amount of money and still end up with a dud. All the more reason to research breeders extensively to make sure they are doing a responsible job of breeding. Breeders that just put two dogs together to make puppies to sell so that they can make a few extra bucks for selfish reasons don't have the breeds or the dogs best interests in mind. Are all the breeders that are charging high prices all doing a good job? Probably not but there again, research, research, research. You bring up a very controversial issue, Todd. Keep in mind that the owners of this site sell their dogs for just such prices and for good reason. If you felt unwelcome perhaps you might realize that your comment could be interpreted as an insult to the hosts or to many of the breeders on this site. Not neccessarily because they are bad breeders but because the amounts you chose to list are quite common for those of us that have dogs here. I personally paid 1850.00 for my dog and I got off not paying about 800.00 because my chosen puppy died at birth, so my breeder who had been importing two males for her breeding stock, from Germany allowed me to pick from one of them. So I didn't have to pay all the shipping, documents, special import fees that I would have otherwise had I shipped him here myself. I can tell you that I would pay that amount over again a hundred times for my dog!

As far as being welcomed to the board...well, let me welcome you. Generally, a new member introduces themselves, maybe puts up a pick of their dogs, etc. A little small talk then a welcome will usually ensue. However, for future reference if you want a welcome maybe you should save the controversial topics for a different thread We are all generally glad for new members to add to the mix but approach is everything.

BTW, what about that email addy of yours? "Back yard breeder" is three four letter words around here, lol!

Hope you aren't too put out and will stick around for more fun!
Light a fire under some of our butts and this place can get crackilackin!

Thanks for the welcome. Just so everyone understands, I am not trying to attack anyone that is selling his or her dogs for a certain price. I am truly curious about the high prices for the Doberman breeds when there is non-stop talk about how they cannot work and are being bred strictly for looks.

Just trying to get a feeling on how the “experts” feel about this situation. If the dogs are as bad as people say (for working) how can they command such high prices?

By the way, the email is just that…. an email address. I am certain nobody on this board would stereotype a person by the email address…right?

I agree that someone with an email of backyardbreeder is suspect on where he is coming from or what his agenda is.

The answer to your question is that dog sales are market driven. Its that simple. If the market will pat for $2,000 puppies there will people who price their pups at that. It's just that simple.

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