ted efthymiadis wrote 03/06/2008 01:42 PM Defense in FR? #184347 - 03/06/2008 01:42 PM
ted efthymiadis Webboard User Reg: 03-02-2007 Posts: 278 Loc: Offline	I'm trainging FR with my 13 month Mal, and he's doing awesome so far. But I was thinking about doing some PPD work with him, and to do so, I would have to do defense work. So my question is this: Because FR is all prey work, If I started to do defense work with him outside of the ring, would this confuse him in the ring? Or would this change his ring work? Would he now see the Decoy in FR as a threat and switch into defense? thanks P.s. If I was to teach defense, I would wait until he's 2 years or older.
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Howard Knauf wrote 03/06/2008 03:14 PM Re: Defense in FR? [Re: ted efthymiadis ] #184371 - 03/06/2008 03:14 PM
Howard Knauf Webboard User Reg: 09-24-2003 Posts: 1555 Loc: Melbourne, Florida Offline	Hi Ted, The only thing that might confuse the dog is if the decoy puts the dog into defense during the trial (if, in fact it is all prey scenarios). Basically, if he sees nothing but prey all the time and is suddenly put into defense then it would possibly confuse any dog not prepared for it. When you later start working up his defense then you'll find he's going to be more intense when challenged if he has the genetics for it. With the intensity may come control issues if you don't do your homework. Howard http://www.spacecoasttactical.com
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ted efthymiadis wrote 03/06/2008 03:22 PM Re: Defense in FR? [Re: Howard Knauf ] #184375 - 03/06/2008 03:22 PM
ted efthymiadis Webboard User Reg: 03-02-2007 Posts: 278 Loc: Offline	Thank you very much Howard. I plan on doing a lot of research into defense and waiting until he's older. Considering he has yet to back down to anyone, dog, animal, human, he seems like he's pretty solid and confident for only 13 months. But I will continue to wait, as to not over stress him when it comes time to do the work. -ted
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Mike J Schoonbrood wrote 03/06/2008 03:29 PM Re: Defense in FR? [Re: ted efthymiadis ] #184376 - 03/06/2008 03:29 PM
Mike J Schoonbrood Webboard User Reg: 04-30-2005 Posts: 2784 Loc: Toronto, ON Offline	I believe a dog should be prepared for the things a person will do to try and put a dog into defense, but I don't see any neccesity in pushing a dog into defense just for the sake of pushing the dog into defense. If the dog stays in prey but is very intense about biting, and will bite anything you point at whether it's a sleeve or flesh, is just fine by me. A dog biting in prey hurts just as much as a dog biting in defense. The best police dog I've ever worked was a severely dominant prey dog.
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