While visiting a litter of puppies, the owner was gang attack by the 10 puppies. He walked out to put the adults away and on his way back to us, these little buggers attacked his socks, not wanting to hurt them he just slowly detached them some came back, for more.

Cutest thing that I've ever seen. When I crouched down after he escaped, they came over to investigate me, then six of them attacked my socks as I raised and moved away. These puppies are about 8 weeks old all out going and aggressive. Lots of play/prey drive you roll a ball and start a near fight as they give chase and grab and retake the ball.

Question is this favorable reaction for puppies this young?

Would this temperment carrying on through out their life? How could you promote this and if your wanted to how could you demeanish it?

Is it possible for there to be 3 Alpha puppies in one pack? 2 males and one female looks like to me.

For some reason their going fast, they are cute.
I'd like the boss female. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

This is a very good reaction for pups, but it would be better to see individual reactions, away from the litter. It will carry on if you develope it, using all the methods talked about on this board and Ed's tapes <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> (I just ordered the puppy bite tape yesterday) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> I doubt if there are three top dogs in the litter,just a bunch of pups that don't give in so easy <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> Test them seperately before you decide on one.

Oldearthdog

So this was a good responce from the little gators
they seem to work things out just fine. You hear occassion screaching gowlings and some yelps. But they would just keep on marching from one group to another, playing and wrestling.

The little female we isolated never changed her personailty, she investigated and chased the ball and me (trying to save my socks & ankles from her sharp little teeth), until I grabbed her a patted her, smoothing her urge to bite.

Problem is the lady friend that drove me there now wants one of these puppies, she has never had a aggressive puppy or a working bred dog, how can I tell her these puppies may not be right for her? She just thinks their cute.

I see a problem brewing or me having two extra dogs instead of one.

My sister and brother in law went with me when I looked at my pup. They just had to have one. I knew it was an impulse buy. I had looked at alot of pups and researched what I was getting into. They did get a female. After two months I was raising two pups, she was just "too rowdy". I was kicking myself in the you know that I did not talk them out of it. Luckily I found a family that had owned GSDs and had to put their old dog to sleep. They just fell in love with the female pup and they are still doing really well. People that have not had these dogs before just dont think that in 6 months you will have a 60 lb alligator that requires alot of attention and patience. There are alot of dogs in shelters and rescues that have been an impulse buy because they are so cute.

Gooddogu, go look at a few dogs at the shelter and take the same woman with you. I bet she'll find an even cuter cream puff there <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> .

Lauren
I mentioned that, she said that she don't want a mutt or an adult problem dog. But the more I try to explained that, the puppy she is looking at might be a bad choice, for her. The more she wants it.

Her choice is of course the Alpha male, spunkiest pup of the bunch and that's saying alot. Mary is only 115 lbs soaking wet, she use to toy breeds, this is really going to be a totally new experince for her.

It looks like a losing battle, it has turned into a dare. Women now days think if man can do it then, I can do it better. And she can with pro trainer. But training a strong male GSD, is going to be a real challenge for a person only use to toy breeds.

I better start making a separate kennel when the dog is 6 months and starts dragging her down the streets, she not going to be ready for that. I'm going let her look at some of my videos & give her some books on this subject.

I'm a fair size guy (6'3" 230lb) for example and sometimes I have a problem holding a large dog when he wants something. Without OB this would be very uncomfortable. I can do it fairly easy but if he lunges by suprise he can snacht me off my feet. She still wants to try, making statements "That she likes them because they look like little wolves pups." They are dark sable puppies but my Black and Tan was that color as a pup. People love the image of what a well breed and trained GSD is, but don't realize the work it takes to get a well breed and trained dog.

I told her that a dog like that has a lot +'s and some -'s, but watching and living with this type dog is inspiring and challenging.

She say's that she is up for it we will see. It's her time and money.

Tell the breeder that your friend can't handle the dog. If the breeder is ethical then they won't sell to her. If they aren't ethical then she shouldn't buy from them. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

I'm 110, so it can be done. It's not something that anybody that wasn't a dog person would want to do, but it can be done. If fact, you can have her email me if you want. I can warn her of the dangers of jogging with a GSD (you slip, dog keeps on going, you get roadburn) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> . It's also very difficult to deal with the dog if they get sick. I've put 60lb dogs on exam tables, but there's no way I could pick up a 90lb male to get him to the vet.

Encourage her to look into a hunting type dog instead. In my experiences they make pretty good pets with less training than a GSD and they are generally a little smaller (although still big dogs)

Forgot to mention:

Go to the pound with her anyway. Say YOU want to adopt a mutt. While you are there, walk by the puppy section, and gasp in surprise at a cute little mutt. "OMG, it's a rare (make up breed name, something exotic- finish terrier) pup! I have NO idea how one of those puppies got here. Too bad for the pup 'cause they're little hellions. They won't find anybody to take on that kind of dog. drive out the wahoo will get this little guy killed. Sad thing is they they mature slow, so he'll get into a home and a few weeks later he'll start ripping the place up with drive." If it's a terrier mix pup it should work fairly well, since they love to bite stuff as a pup. Get the cage info so you can call breed rescue <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> . If she's that stupid it will work.

Another option: if you or the breeder has a big strong male put it in a leather protection collar/harness, give her the leash, walk 50' away and then do a recall. after she picks herself up from being dragged along the ground (with all of the accompanying scrapes etc.) let her know that her puppy will be at least as big and probably harder to control. My personal experience, you can explain something like this to a woman 100x and they won't believe you until they try it themselves. (of course, they would probably say the same about us <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> ) if this doesn't work, just think of it this way, you're going to get a nice male in a few months gratis. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Good one Sak man. If she wears soccer cleats for the experiment then she's probbably smart enough to own the dog <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> .