Reg: 12-15-2007
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I was just wondering if using both clicker and voice marker would be confusing to the dog. We have used voice markers from the beginning with Max because it was just easier to not have to buy another thing for him - and we always have our voice with us.
But if we were to start using a clicker would we have to change exclusively to the clicker or can we use both without confusing him? I can see us not having the clicker when we really need it.
You can use both. Not a problem. At least it has not been an issue for me. I started with voice markers and still use them. In the last year I got a clicker. I use it only to train certain things, and only use the clicker in my kitchen (can't be bothered to bring it anywhere).
Reg: 01-12-2008
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If more than one person is training the dog is it okay to use a voice marker as long as everyone agrees to use the same word or do you need to use a clicker?
If more than one person is training the dog is it okay to use a voice marker as long as everyone agrees to use the same word or do you need to use a clicker?
You can use a voice marker.
That said, IMHO only one person should be training the dog in the learning phase to avoid confusion and to stay consistant. You will have different goals, expectations, manerisms, timing than others will. Once behaviors are already learned, then they can be taught to other family members the way you want them to be taught.
For example, I do all the training at my house. For the basic every day casual stuff you need to live with a dog...I teach my husband. He does not need to use a marker(for me a marker ends the behavior and a reward is coming) to have the dog laydown, go outside, come, wait, quiet or whatever else is needed.
I do not let my husband mess with the dog in the teaching phase of new behaviors, or with my formal obedience stuff. He would make too many mistakes and I make enough already
Reg: 01-12-2008
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Jennifer,
We're a family of five adults and there are three of us who really want to be involved in the training of our puppy and bond with him. So figuring out who would be the "main" trainer would probably create a fight. LOL. So, is it doable for three people to be involved in the learning phase if we worked together or is that utterly ridiculous? We're all pretty new at the dog training so there is not one person who knows or has more experience than the other. And if we do just let one person do the training will the puppy bond with the rest of the family members?
So, is it doable for three people to be involved in the learning phase if we worked together or is that utterly ridiculous? We're all pretty new at the dog training so there is not one person who knows or has more experience than the other. And if we do just let one person do the training will the puppy bond with the rest of the family members?
IMO... too many cooks in the kitchen! Is it doable, probably, but expect to spend a much longer time in the learning phase and also anticipate an abundance of accidentally trained unwanted behaviors. Timing is everything in marker training and it takes practice on the handlers part to get it down pat. As Jennifer mentioned she makes enough mistakes on her own as do I without adding anyone else to the mix. And Jennifer is a skilled trainer and I fall in the adequate category.
I nominate you, Maisha, to take the lead in the pups training, you are after all the one doing the research. As far as bonding, my dog is very bonded with all members of the family even though I was the one who took care of him and trained him.
Reg: 01-12-2008
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We're getting a GSD. The breeder picked out our puppy today. They're 6 weeks old. Yeah I know you guys are right. But my sister and brother are pretty disappointed. They don't want to miss out on training. We're all new at this and are very excited about it. I guess that means we have to get a dog for each person so we can all have a hand in training a dog. LOL.
Reg: 12-15-2007
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Could you not pick different different things each to train? For example one of you train 'sit', one train 'lie down' and the other train something else.
That way you can't accidentally train a different behaviour by getting the timing different from someone else. You stick to just training the behaviour you chose/agreed on and that way you keep it consistent, and you can't mess up someone else's training cos you are training a completely different thing.
I hope I'm explaining what I mean properly.
Edited by Rhonda Parkin (04/20/2008 07:17 PM)
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without adding anyone else to the mix. And Jennifer is a skilled trainer and I fall in the adequate category.
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