I'm feeding Orijen Large Breed Puppy kibble, mixed with raw patties.
My pup is 13 weeks, and he's running about 27 pounds right now. I'm looking at the back of the bag at the feeding schedule, and at 3 months, it jumps from 2.25 cups a day, to around 4 cups per day. This seems to me like a whole lot or extra food to add all at once.
Keep in mind that I do feed some raw food also. I've been doing only 4 ounces of raw per day so far, and then reducing the dry food by a tiny bit to make way for it.
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When I first switched to raw I tried to match the calories required. The daily caloric requirements of a 70lb dog are between 1471 and 1766 kcals according to a book I have called better food for dogs. This is probably not right for puppies though,you may need to look at whats required by age also.It could be more or less, I don't know. Online you can find the calorie count of different foods, here's some I had scribbled down.
16oz chicken-704cal.
8oz turkey-380cal.
4oz hamburger-375cal
1 egg-74cals.
Mike J Schoonbrood Webboard User Reg: 04-30-2005
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I would feed the kibble and raw in seperate meals. They digest at different rates and I've always been told to feed them seperately. I'm sure Connie can chime in with some more specific reasoning besides "people told me to" but it made sense at the time :p
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Most things I read suggest about diet of ~3% of body weight for raw feeding.
Doing some math. 27 lb dog = about 432 oz. Three percent of that is about 13 oz. Little less than 2 cups. You are feeding 4 oz of raw which is 30% of 13 oz. I would start feeding about 70% of reccomended amount of kibble.
A lot of this has to do with how active your dog is as well as some dogs might experience growth spurts and require more food during those periods. It is just a guide.
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Quote: mike j schoonbrood
I would feed the kibble and raw in seperate meals. They digest at different rates and I've always been told to feed them seperately. I'm sure Connie can chime in with some more specific reasoning besides "people told me to" but it made sense at the time :p
Many people do it, but I've never been convinced that kibble doesn't slow the natural speed with which raw on its own zips through from one end to the other, and that speed minimizes the opportunity for food pathogens to colonize. (Raw takes much less time to go through than kibble does.)
I haven't had any noticeable problems with mixing the dry and raw. Except he tends to fart a bit when he's sitting in front of the TV with me. Other than that, he poops regularly at about 4pm and midnight every day.
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Well, the objection would be not that pooping would halt or decrease in frequency, but that the raw food had been delayed to the speed of kibble, thus diminishing one of the dog's weapons against colonization of food pathogens in the gut (a rapid journey through the intestine).
Again, though, many dog owners do it and see no ill effects (except that gas you mention).
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I feed them at raw and kibble at separate times and my dog wakes me up night with the farts. I have to retreat under the blankets ROFL. You think with the ultra sensitive noses they would excuse themselves to take care of business.
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You think with the ultra sensitive noses they would excuse themselves to take care of business.
Jeff, dogs don't find the smell of farts or excrement to be unpleasant. I'm a little confused at this statement as it implies dogs should be modest.
Also, redgarding percentages.. and Connie or someone correct me if I am wrong.. the 2-3% rule applies to adult dogs. 2-3% of their ideal weight/day. I have gone by the rule of 5-10% current body weight/day for growing puppies always judging by body condition to adjust ration, not 3%.
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