My friend own a pit bull and a boxer.
She does the pre made raw like me but her dog does not seem to be adjusting. She is doing one raw meal one kibble meal. Or at least trying to. Everytime she gives them a raw meal over a few days they get the runs.
My main question is when your buying a pre made raw how should you change them over without them getting the runs.

 Quote: Stephanie St Julian

My friend own a pit bull and a boxer.
She does the pre made raw like me but her dog does not seem to be adjusting. She is doing one raw meal one kibble meal. Or at least trying to. Everytime she gives them a raw meal over a few days they get the runs.
My main question is when your buying a pre made raw how should you change them over without them getting the runs.

Almost surely giving too much of the raw food.

She might be giving as much raw as she would kibble.

Have her cut the raw meal in half and see what happens. I betcha what happens is that the dogs are fine. Then slowly increase it to the correct level.

Are these puppies or adults?

Her pit is 1 1/2 years
her boxer is 4 months old
They where both recues from shelters.
So we dont know much about there past. Food intake she has been doing parie for about 2 months sence she got the puppy
And she started raw about 2 weeks ago.
I told her to add raw to kibble first so there stomachs would adjust. Then slowly build up to one raw one kibble meal
But they dont seem to be taking to it.

What is the ratio
The pit is eating about 1 1/2 cups aday on dry kibble alone
How much should she cut back on dry to add the raw to the night time meal.
And the boxer mix is small eating about 3/4 cups of kibble a day
What would she cut back. To add raw to the diet

If she feels that she needs to feed both kibble and raw while switching I would make sure they are fed at separate meals and figure amount like this.

For the Pit:
Since she was feeding 1.5 cups of kibble a day when only feeding kibble cut that in half(3/4 of a cup).

For raw take his weight and find 2% of it(.02 X weight). Cut that in half and feed that amount for the raw meal.

For the Boxer, since he is still a puppy, you will need to do the same process but the 2% should be of what his adult weight will be. A guess is close enough.

I never figure my raw feeding amounts out with this accuracy, but have found that people not yet familiar/comfortable with raw feeding feel more comfortable when they have exact amounts to start with.

Shannon

*I am assuming both dogs are at a healthy weight to start with, correct me if this is wrong

One of two things is probably happening: too much of the raw food period (a lot of people overfeed raw at first because they were used to a grain-based kibble that the dog needed a lot of) or too much all at once instead of a gradual switch.

 Quote: Stephanie St Julian

Her pit is 1 1/2 years
her boxer is 4 months old ... The pit is eating about 1 1/2 cups aday on dry kibble alone ... And the boxer mix is small eating about 3/4 cups of kibble a day

Is the raw food typical RMBs - real RMBs, etc., or is it meat with calcium supplements? That is going to affect the amount to feed by a LOT, so you have to tell us what raw food it is.

Then the eventual result for, say, the Pit, will be 3/4 cup of kibble at one meal (half of a day's worth) and half of a day's worth of the raw at the other meal. I was watching a thread that drove me out of my mind when I had a cast on my typing hand -- someone was trying to figure out how to feed half kibble and half raw by counting calories and figuring dry matter conversions and I forget what all else.... but unless something is going right over my head, you would just feed half of a normal day's kibble amount and half of a normal day's raw amount.

But I would start out with three meals, two of them kibble and one raw, with 1/3 of a day's worth of kibble at one meal, then 1/3 of a day's worth of raw at one meal, then again 1/3 of a day's worth of kibble at the third meal.

I personally don't like to mix raw and kibble in one meal.

Anyway, if that isn't clear, if you can post back with either the name of the raw or the instructed amount, we can figure out exactly what 1/3 of a day's worth of the raw is, to be gradually increased to 1/2 (as the kibble is gradually decreased).

And no matter what, the first day or two of the raw food are small raw meals. New food is much easier to handle if it's not too much of the new food as well.

Yes they are both healthy
Both in really good shape right now her morning really dont allow her to go raw.
But she will feed raw in the evening and kibble in the morning.
She is using the premade raw
By natural variety.
I have got a few friend to start using it.
And a few others on better food.
Anyway so she would cut the raw in half and the kibble in half

 Quote: Shannon Reed

If she feels that she needs to feed both kibble and raw while switching I would make sure they are fed at separate meals and figure amount like this.

For the Pit:
Since she was feeding 1.5 cups of kibble a day when only feeding kibble cut that in half(3/4 of a cup).

For raw take his weight and find 2% of it(.02 X weight). Cut that in half and feed that amount for the raw meal.

Exactly.... but only if the pre-made raw is a real RMB-type food and not muscle meat with calcium in the form of bone meal or other calcium powder. We need to know that.

 Quote: Stephanie St Julian

Yes they are both healthy
Both in really good shape right now her morning really dont allow her to go raw.
But she will feed raw in the evening and kibble in the morning.
She is using the premade raw
By natural variety.
I have got a few friend to start using it.
And a few others on better food.
Anyway so she would cut the raw in half and the kibble in half

Yes. But the first few raw meals are on the low side. Ad I would work up to the half and half as detailed above (since they are having diarrhea).

 Quote: Stephanie St Julian

I have got a few friend to start using it.
And a few others on better food.

That's good!