Vitamen E
#202244 - 07/18/2008 05:59 PM |
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I have a question regarding vitamin E. How much per day does a puppy get? How much for an adult? I finally have everything ready to go with all raw, except for my Vit E, so I have to get that tomorrow and realized I had no idea how much to give them. Thanks for everyones help. I am so excited to start feeding Raw!
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Re: Vitamen E
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#202245 - 07/18/2008 06:02 PM |
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What weight is the pup?
Do you have your fish oil?
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#202246 - 07/18/2008 06:06 PM |
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Yes I have the fish oil. My Standard Poodle puppy is 40 pounds, and I am getting a 8 week old GSD (she is already being fed RAW by the breeder) in a couple weeks, and then I have adult GSDs. I am switching them all to RAW.
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Re: Vitamen E
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#202248 - 07/18/2008 06:13 PM |
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OK, what I would do for the new puppy is look for 100 IU gelcaps of Vitamin E (mixed tocopherols).
If not, next best (and it's fine) is 100 IU gelcaps of Vitamin E (d-alpha). Third, JMHO, is dl-alpha.
200 IU is OK, too, if that's all you find, and you would use that anyway when she became 35 pounds or so.
You will probably find that they all eat 'em up like caviar. I used to pierce-and-squeeze....
So I like 100 IU for puppies and small breeds like terriers, etc. Then 200 IU for small dogs, and 400-600 for big ones. 400 is the most I give (to a 65-pound GSD), but I do know people who use 600 for all big dogs (like 80 to 100 pounds).
These are easily found in health food stores and vitamin stores, very inexpensively.
The thing with E is that there has been shown to be no toxic O.D. dog amount even at very high lab levels. This is an oil-soluble vitamin, so that is a little surprising, but there it is.
Still, I'm not one to think that "more is better" with micronutrients.
P.S. Good for you.
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#202250 - 07/18/2008 06:16 PM |
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Do you need fish oil amounts?
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#202305 - 07/19/2008 04:57 AM |
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This is an oil-soluble vitamin, so that is a little surprising, but there it is.
Interesting add, I did see a water soluable version of E-oil yesterday. ? I did not buy it, but do you know how this version compares? I did not read the details.
To the OP, ditto the kudos for switching to raw. Makes life not only more healthy, but more interesting too!
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#202308 - 07/19/2008 06:35 AM |
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I realized that I do need the fish oils amounts. Thanks for pointing that out...Also, I was told to get the cold pressed cod liver oil , and then when I went to the health food store to get the fish oil (I tried to get the salmon oil,recommended by the breeder of my new pup) but they don't carry it and they said that the cod liver oil woulld be the same as the fish oil, so do I do both the fish and the the cod liver oil? That has me a little confused.
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Re: Vitamen E
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#202322 - 07/19/2008 12:45 PM |
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I don't use fish liver oil, and the store person was incorrect to say that they were the same.
One problem is that liver oil has so high a level of oil-soluble vitamins (A and D) that a daily therapeutic dose can be too close to O.D. levels.
I would bet money that they do indeed carry fish body oil and that the salesperson was confused. It's a standard item in health food and supplement stores.
It's also in Trader Joe's (both de-odorized and not) and most big drugstores.
I'd look for the "Omega 3 Oils" section (possibly refrigerated). In the health food store, look by the flax and hemp oils. Then check labels. You want salmon oil or small-fish oil (anchovies/sardines/herring) because even if you don't find a molecularly distilled one, these are low-mercury (and other heavy metals) fish.
You don't want a "balanced 3-6-9" oil --- just straight fish oil.
Then once you are covered for now, you could get this in a handy pump bottle:
http://leerburg.com/47.htm
I use a gram (1000 mg) per day, per ten pounds of dog.
That is, a 20-pound dog gets 2 grams (2000 mg) a day. This is about .4 teaspoon (a little under half of a teaspoon).
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Re: Vitamen E
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#202325 - 07/19/2008 03:05 PM |
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Thanks. That clears that up for me. I went back to the health store today and got the vit E, now I will look again for the fish oil. I will probably making an order again from leerburg again in the next few days, so I will order from here also, ( I think I am addicted to this website (ha), I have ordered weekly since finding out about it. Thanks again for all your help!
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