 What is a green dog?
#212849 - 10/20/2008 08:19 AM |
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I just am trying to understand the lingo here. What is a green dog?
I am not looking for one or anything, just trying to understand the terms.
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Re: What is a green dog?
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#212853 - 10/20/2008 08:43 AM |
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I may be wrong, but I think it's a dog who is young and inexperienced/untrained.
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#212857 - 10/20/2008 09:17 AM |
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I just am trying to understand the lingo here. What is a green dog?
I am not looking for one or anything, just trying to understand the terms.
In my business, it's a dog that has potential, but no training.
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#212859 - 10/20/2008 09:25 AM |
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For my part (just to show how green I am!), I've felt a green dog is one who's foundation work has been done, one who's potential can be shown in action. No titles but is probably ready for at least a BH in the ring.
Am I close?
Randy
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#212860 - 10/20/2008 09:28 AM |
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my understanding is green in that context refers to youth and/or inexperience. i think it comes from an analogy to unripe fruit/vegetables that are still 'green' (like a tomato, i guess).
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In the horse world, a green horse is an animal that can be backed and knows the absolute basics (go forward, stop, and turn) but has absolute NO refinements of any kind, and is nowhere near 100% reliable when it comes to performing these tasks.
In dog terms, to me, a green dog would be a young (or inexperienced) dog that maybe knows the basics (sit, down, come stay) but not to the point of reliability. If it is destined to bite work of any sort, perhaps it has the beginning of bite training.
Isn’t it funny how we all have a different idea of what one term means to each of us. I can see how it would cause frustration or disappointment when Randy is expecting a green dog to be ready for the BH, and David expects the dog to have no training, but potential, and I want the basics started... 
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#212865 - 10/20/2008 10:33 AM |
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In dog terms, to me, a green dog would be a young (or inexperienced) dog that maybe knows the basics (sit, down, come stay) but not to the point of reliability. If it is destined to bite work of any sort, perhaps it has the beginning of bite training.
Isn’t it funny how we all have a different idea of what one term means to each of us. I can see how it would cause frustration or disappointment when Randy is expecting a green dog to be ready for the BH, and David expects the dog to have no training, but potential, and I want the basics started...
What you describe, both horse and dog, is what we refer to as a "started dog". Or we say, a started dog that is bite tested. Started with a drug dog would be one odor and response. EDD would be one odor and response. Started in patrol would be basic ob, and bite tested.
Geez louise, if it wasn't for the differences in terminology we'd have very little to discuss ha ha.
DFrost
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#212867 - 10/20/2008 10:41 AM |
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Geez louise, if it wasn't for the differences in terminology we'd have very little to discuss ha ha.
HAHAHA!! No kidding!
Looks like it is destined to be a slow Monday...
What this reminds me of though, is the importance of clear communication, not just spewing a term out there and expecting everyone to know what you are talking about! 
Jessica
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#212873 - 10/20/2008 11:33 AM |
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Hmmm, my original thinking was closer to what David's 'started dog' is.
The dogs potential can be demostrated and basic OB.
Basic OB is pretty much what is expected for a BH isn't it? More flashy perhaps, but when one comes down to it, basic OB none the less.
Well golly, you guys make it sound like a green dog isn't any more than an older puppy.
If I'm not learning, I'm not paying attention.
Randy
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