My 2 year old pit mix will obey all commands while on a long leash on my front lawn, or off leash in my fenced backyard. Yesterday, he got out (my fault) ran across street to a neighbors yard, barked at kids standing in front of their bikes (another problem we dont know why he does it) and ignored all commands, e.g. come, down, here. I felt like an idiot. I have recently used an "e" collar and he will come with that but he did not have it on when he bolted. I had treats with me but he ignored them. I know he thought it was play time. Should I always leave the collar on him if there is the slightest chance the gate will be left open. On an "e" collar training site they said "you always use the collar for the rest of dogs life". Any advice would be helpful.
If I were a parent of one of those kids I'd definately want you to make sure your dog is under control at all times. However you do it, I'm sure a lot of people in the neighbourhood wouldn't care if you thought he wanted to play. There's a lot of prejudice against "pit" type dogs, some with good reason.
I live in a city with a large pit population. I have also trapped an "at large" pit in my backyard for the SPCA to come get. If I saw your dog running at me and barking I'd probably file a complaint with the SPCA or bylaw enforcement. People are not likely to do this if they see a golden at large. Face it, if the dog isn't inside the house you have a responsibility to make sure the neighbourhood is safe. Use the e-collar if he's outside. Better be safe than sorry.
Not to beat you up, I know any dog can be a biter!
I will point out the obvious, your training is not yet complete my young Jedi!
By all means use the e-collar, but seek professional help with learning to use it, there are some gret threads on e-collar use here on this board, read thoes as well.
And start working on that training, looks like you are at the distraction/correction phase of training so keep on it!
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Anytime I have my dog off leash, outside, I put the e-collar on first, every - single - time. I live in the country, but there is still the road hazzard and deer. I don't take chances, ever.
Originally posted by Lonny B.: I will point out the obvious, your training is not yet complete my young Jedi! Bingo. Time to take a few steps back and work on that obedience more.
If a dog is Leash Smart it’s because we teach them to be that way. The same can be said for a pinch collar, e-collar, or any other type of equipment. The dog is just being a dog. Once the foundation of learning has been established with treats it’s time to start training. Training requires a knowledgeable and skillful handler that can apply correctly timed compulsion for reliable service. As pointed out, it’s also time to include the use of distractions. When the distraction is a stronger incentive than the treat it’s time for compulsion. Train the dog to respond to the commands and not the equipment. Train the dog that open gates or doors are not invitations to bolt out of without a release command.
Sorry I was a bit harsh earlier. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
The others are correct though. He is either 100% reliable off-leash or he does not get off leash priviliges (especially in the front yard of a neighbourhood) and therefore he is not thoroughly trained yet. There have been other threads on this board discussing off leash situations and coming when called. Check them out.
Even my reliable dog goes on a long line (15 ft.) when I'm working in the gardens out front for more than and hour and want him with me. It's just an extra measure of safety. I only do it when the kids are out. They often like to call his name or come over for a visit. This way I can control his response, pay attention to them and still garden. I take out a blanket (his "place"), some water and a good toy. This may not work for your dog but it works for me. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Jerry, your dog should also be taught a "wait" command for open doors and gates. They are not an open invitation to freedom but are to be used at your discretion.
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did not have it on when he bolted. I had treats with me but he ignored them. I know he thought it was play time. Should I always leave the collar on him if there is the slightest chance the gate will be left open. On an "e" collar training site they said "you always use the collar for the rest of dogs life". Any advice would be helpful.
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