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Is hand signals important in Obedeince work, pets?
#21268 - 07/30/2002 05:44 PM |
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I've always like to use hand signal incooperated in my Ob training, after the dog understands the verbal commands. I find ways to use these signals all the time. I started on lease, then off lease at my side, then at a distance(25-50 yrds) off lease or tied out. Is there anybody else that think hand signals have a purpose in Ob training?
Is it pracitcle to do this?
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#21269 - 07/30/2002 08:21 PM |
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Dogs primarily communicate using body language, or signals.
I don't use them for formal obedience, but I find that I use them almost subconciously for commands like "kennel" and other stuff around the house.
Important? Not really in my opinion, but people sure like 'em.
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#21270 - 07/30/2002 08:41 PM |
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I just watched a handler loose 4 pts. for useing both hand and verbal signals during a competition. The rules state one or the other, not both. The handler knew this but had developed a bad habit that he did sub-conciously.
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#21271 - 07/30/2002 08:44 PM |
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I've made a concentrated effort to not only teach my pup the verbal commands but the hand signals as well. My theory is..the more education the better the dog and if she can't hear me; but can see me..it may save her life or mine someday.
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#21272 - 07/30/2002 09:22 PM |
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Hand signals are often convienient. There are times where you are talking on the phone or soething else so that it is inconvinient to use a verbal command. When I am talking to people I use the hand signals all the time.
If you are going to teach both, teach the verbal commands first. Dogs will learn the hand signals easier than the voice commands, and given a choice only respond to the hand signal. If you teach the voice command first, and have it solid, then the hand signal you will be able to use both.
If it is a problem for using both verbal and voice commands in compition, stick your hands in your pockets. I am screwed any way because I talk with my hands any way. If you hold my arms still I shut up (No comments VanCamp <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> )
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#21273 - 07/30/2002 10:09 PM |
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Another good thing is when the dog gets old...
My dog lost her hearing, but using a vibrating collar and hand signals she can be allowed off leash. Before that, she would be too far away and I would have to yell.. by the time she "heard" me she thought she was in trouble.
I do have to say that she had "selective" hearing for years... a typical schnauzer trait.. and now on occasion she has selective eyesight.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
Still love her though <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#21274 - 07/30/2002 10:54 PM |
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when i was training my female gsd puppy, i trained hand and verbal signals at the same time. From the day i brought her home i had been using hand and verbal signals together, so she just learned them that way..it was a great tool for her to know. very useful and fun at times tosee how well she learned things, even when i was not focusing on those specific things
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#21275 - 07/31/2002 03:33 AM |
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Some hand signals for personal protection are very useful.
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#21276 - 07/31/2002 09:06 AM |
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VanCamp,
What hand signals are you using for Protection. I do use a hand signal as an "out/leave it" command. I was curious what others you use.
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I'm actually having a problem with hand signals. I've been working on the sit from a down for a while now. My Lab has it down pat, with no need for the hand signals any longer. But my mixed breed bitch doesn't seem to comprehend "sit" (from a down) unless accompanied by the sweeping upward hand gesture, as I take a step toward her. She just lies there looking at me like "OK, you're talking, but I'm not hearing you.". I guess I just need to work with her more. My goal would be for her to understand the word without the hand signal, and vice versa. I think my main problem is that I don't work her as frequently as I do the Lab (my husband accuses me of playing favorites).
Anyway, I like having both verbal and hand gestures, however, I don't like being reliant on having them always go together.
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