 Raw and joint health
#250257 - 08/18/2009 08:16 AM |
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When I bought my pup, I was told that his parents had good hip xrays but I didn't ask to see anything. I was just told that in fact my dogs parents did not have good hips. I don't know the person who told me this...could be true, could be some personal issue the two have.
In any case, I recently switched my guy to raw and am wondering if feeding him more of certain items (beef trachea and chicken feet) will be just as good as a gluc/chond supplement. I know there are certain carriers for this stuff that need to be present and wonder if they are fed via the raw food if the dog gets as much use from them.
I've not had my dog xrayed and he shows no signs but I thought if adding a bit more of certain items could ward it off, we may as well give it a whirl. If somthing as simple as adding more chix feet or trachea will make a difference, why not do some preventative maint.
Thoughts? Experiences? Tips?
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Re: Raw and joint health
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#250266 - 08/18/2009 10:14 AM |
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... I recently switched my guy to raw and am wondering if feeding him more of certain items (beef trachea and chicken feet) will be just as good as a gluc/chond supplement. ...
No. There is no proven food source "on the hoof" (as it were) for glucosamine/chondroitin, even though they are derived from chitin and cartilage. I have read several university dot edu sites in search of anyone authoritative who states that food sources of either are even close to a supplement, and they do not. U of Maryland, for example, states categorically that "there are no food sources of glucosamine" and "there are do dietary sources of chondroitin" (different articles at umm.edu).
How old is the dog?
Are you seeing stiffness or altered gait?
I assume that you are giving a therapeutic dose of fish oil (and the E to support it), regardless of age?
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#250268 - 08/18/2009 10:28 AM |
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Thanks for the info. I also read same thing about food sources but wasn't certain of the resource.
Im not seeing anything at all I just figured, he's gonna eat so if there was something I could feed to reduce it just in case that I may as well. For all I know, he's perfectly fine. Concern just came about when I was told he had it in his family.
I have fish once a week in his diet plan but I have not supplemented anything thus far.
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#250269 - 08/18/2009 10:30 AM |
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He needs fish oil and vitamin E to protect the PUFAs as they are processed in the body.
There are zillions of threads here on why and on dosage. 
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#250270 - 08/18/2009 10:31 AM |
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#250271 - 08/18/2009 10:36 AM |
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Can't beat genetics.
Food-wise, the fresh, varied raw diet you are feeding is the best you can do. Compared to a highly processed, grain-based diet, you are miles ahead in prevention, IMO.
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#250274 - 08/18/2009 11:37 AM |
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I will add to Mike's statement...that pups raised on a proper raw diet tend to grow in size & weight more slowly the way nature intended. In doing so, it allows their skelletal system to grow slowly & puts less stress on it & thereby has less potential risks(geticts excluded) for hip displaysia & pano. Unfortunatley, no diet can make up for or reverse the outcomes caused by poor breeding.
Edited to say...that there are other factors that can effect hips such as over exercise of a young dog etc, etc.
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#250276 - 08/18/2009 11:46 AM |
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You all are great. He's just turned two and only been on raw for a couple of weeks. He was on a large breed puppy kibble until he was 1, then adult. I switched brands around because he's finicky but always used the better brands (I think)..Nutro, Canidae, Blue Buffalo, TOTW, etc almost all have been grain free.
He's actually small for a corso, so I guess he has that going for him.
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#250279 - 08/18/2009 12:35 PM |
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uuuhhh...ok, now I have a headache from all that info. I take it the salmon oil does not have the E in it so you have to do that seperate. Is there a product that has the E already in it?
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#250280 - 08/18/2009 01:08 PM |
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Not enough, no.
Give us the weight and we can give you both dosages.
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