Marti Wood wrote 10/29/2009 05:09 AM Tyguard Eros early heelwork video #255698 - 10/29/2009 05:09 AM
Marti Wood Webboard User Reg: 10-26-2009 Posts: 3 Loc: Offline	A bit of heelwork from yesterday with my young dog Dano, hes my first dog for VPG Taught him the heelwork posistion using hand targetting and the clicker now ive taught him to keep his head there without the hand.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FCAl3YFLrQ Comments welcome... Marti http://www.nwvpg.co.uk
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JessicaKromer wrote 10/29/2009 12:11 PM Re: Tyguard Eros early heelwork video [Re: Marti Wood ] #255729 - 10/29/2009 12:11 PM
JessicaKromer Webboard User Reg: 10-28-2006 Posts: 991 Loc: CA Offline	Marti, he looks GREAT! I didn't get a chance to watch the whole thing (I got about half way through) but one thing I would work on would be to get him to come up (forward) just a tad. Four inches or so. He looks good and correct, so I don't think it would be a big deal, but it would be something to work on... He does look very nice! You should be proud of your accomplishment! Jessica
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steve strom wrote 10/29/2009 12:16 PM Re: Tyguard Eros early heelwork video [Re: Marti Wood ] #255730 - 10/29/2009 12:16 PM
steve strom Webboard User Reg: 03-17-2006 Posts: 4203 Loc: Offline	Good work Marti. I have a question for you. How did you change his focus from your hand to your face? Were there specific steps or just work that attention separate or something? I'm just not too clear on hand targeting.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 10/29/2009 01:02 PM Re: Tyguard Eros early heelwork video [Re: steve strom ] #255732 - 10/29/2009 01:02 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Not at all answering for Marti (and GREAT work!) .... I mark and reward when the dog looks in my eyes. I do this indoors, doing nothing else. I make it a whole separate activity at first. If I have to, I bring a great food reward up to my face, between my eyes, a couple of times, so the lightbulb can light up. But usually a patient doing-nothing will eventually draw the dog's eyes to my face to see WTH is going on. This is one of those things that I start indoors, zero distraction (except a gradual hand-fiddling thing for proofing), any time of day. I would love to read other "watch me" and "look" and "focus" methods.
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Lynne Barrows wrote 10/29/2009 01:12 PM Re: Tyguard Eros early heelwork video [Re: Marti Wood ] #255733 - 10/29/2009 01:12 PM
Lynne Barrows Webboard User Reg: 09-22-2007 Posts: 2531 Loc: S. Florida Offline	Marti, that was fun to watch. You two look like you are really enjoing the work... Connie, not to answer for Steve, but I think what he was asking was how did Marti accomplish the transition from hand targeting to focusing on the face... ( )
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Connie Sutherland wrote 10/29/2009 01:15 PM Re: Tyguard Eros early heelwork video [Re: Lynne Barrows ] #255734 - 10/29/2009 01:15 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: lynne barrows Marti, that was fun to watch. You two look like you are really enjoing the work... Connie, not to answer for Steve, but I think what he was asking was how did Marti accomplish the transition from hand targeting to focusing on the face... ( ) Ohhhh ..... duh. It would have helped if I actually read the O.P. Does the dog have the "look" command? And yes, that WAS fun to watch. I love training clips. MORE!
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steve strom wrote 10/29/2009 01:47 PM Re: Tyguard Eros early heelwork video [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #255738 - 10/29/2009 01:47 PM
steve strom Webboard User Reg: 03-17-2006 Posts: 4203 Loc: Offline	Yeah, once you've made the hand what he's focused on, how do you change it to your face? Your hand is always in view unless you put it in your pocket. Marti is the first one I've ever seen that taught heeling that way,or at least I think he is, and it looks like he did very well with it.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 10/29/2009 02:11 PM Re: Tyguard Eros early heelwork video [Re: steve strom ] #255740 - 10/29/2009 02:11 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: steve strom Yeah, once you've made the hand what he's focused on, how do you change it to your face? Your hand is always in view unless you put it in your pocket. Marti is the first one I've ever seen that taught heeling that way,or at least I think he is, and it looks like he did very well with it. I've taught heel position with touch-target, but not competition heel (with the face-focus). As with anything else, you (or I) want to fade the target pretty fast (the way someone might gradually reduce the size of a deli container lid, etc.), so if it's your palm you can both decrease its size (5 fingers, then 4, then 3, then 2) and also randomize its use, as well as "upping" the marking/rewarding because now the dog is "thinking," or doing the same action without the target. I think that I would add my "look" command after the target fade, but I have not done this, and I do hope that the O.P. will post back. Now I want to try it!  Quote: steve strom ... it looks like he did very well with it. I'll say!
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Laura Nicholas wrote 10/29/2009 02:13 PM Re: Tyguard Eros early heelwork video [Re: steve strom ] #255741 - 10/29/2009 02:13 PM
Laura Nicholas Webboard User Reg: 10-21-2009 Posts: 22 Loc: Cheshire , UK Offline	Nice work ! Love the focus he has without going " flat" as i have seen so many dogs do around here when doing heelwork. http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c280/Lorzx/smallred.jpg
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Bob Scott wrote 10/29/2009 11:25 PM Re: Tyguard Eros early heelwork video [Re: Laura Nicholas ] #255768 - 10/29/2009 11:25 PM
Bob Scott Moderator Reg: 06-14-2002 Posts: 7417 Loc: St. Louis Mo Offline	Nice work! I HATE watching a dog heel when it looks like it's hating it. Instead of constantly looking down at the dog look at the ground 8-10 ft in front of you. You'll still be able to see the dog (peripheral sp? vision). That will stop you from losing points in competitions for constantly looking at the dog. Be prepaired that this might pull your dog forward a bit because he's looking for a particlar sight picture of your face. old dogs LOVE to learn new tricks
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