 walking with the prong
#258614 - 12/04/2009 10:32 PM |
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Please help me, I know it is probably me.
I so want my dogs to not pull me. I have tried the stopping, have tried the turning around, have tried yanking, tried spinning her around real fast back to my side, tried 'popping the lead saying 'no'. What else?
I love watching well taught dogs, or people that can walk 16 dogs at one time, but all I want is to walk two without the pulling.
Please teach me. I have watched so many films, read so many books, heard so much advice but nothing is working.
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#258616 - 12/04/2009 11:44 PM |
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Do you have it on correctly?
Very snug and high on the dog's neck, right behind the ears. If it's loose or lower on the neck it's pretty much useless.
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#258622 - 12/05/2009 01:44 AM |
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http://leerburg.com/prong.htm The first vid has a pretty good image of positioning. My other question is that have you trained your dog to walk on a loose leash?
I always tell people it's harder to correct a dog into what you want them to do rather than just show them to do what you wanted in the first place. A collar is just a tool, not a magic wand to alter behavior.
The last large adult dog I had the pull issue with we corrected with a prong, a bag of kibble/treats, and a leash. We started with just the prong on in an large empty room and no leash and taught where I wanted her when we were walking, if she figured out the position I marked and handed her a treat. We then added a leash, moved outside, added distractions and now we're pretty golden on the matter.
It did mean in the beginning though she didn't go on normal walks. My shoulder was pretty messed up and couldn't handle 5lbs of pressure so instead I trained her to a treadmill where she could pull to her hearts content and it wouldn't get her anywhere.
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#258665 - 12/05/2009 03:01 PM |
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I love watching well taught dogs, or people that can walk 16 dogs at one time, but all I want is to walk two without the pulling.
Please teach me. I have watched so many films, read so many books, heard so much advice but nothing is working.
You really need to start with one dog at a time. Only after both of them individually are heeling well, should you try walking both together. Many times, the ones walking so many dogs at a tiome are simply strong enough that their pulling is not as noticable to the observer, such as with Cesar Milan. The dogs are out in front and happily pulling, but he has a smile on his face and gripping the leashes tight.
If you don't want the arm and shoulder muscle exercise, train them to heel individually first, then train thenm to heel together.
Please help me, I know it is probably me.
I so want my dogs to not pull me. I have tried the stopping, have tried the turning around, have tried yanking, tried spinning her around real fast back to my side, tried 'popping the lead saying 'no'. What else?
More details. What preceded the dog pulling? What exactly did you do in each case? What equipment were you using? How were you using it?
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#258702 - 12/05/2009 07:10 PM |
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"You really need to start with one dog at a time. Only after both of them individually are heeling well, should you try walking both together. Many times, the ones walking so many dogs at a tiome are simply strong enough that their pulling is not as noticable to the observer, such as with Cesar Milan. The dogs are out in front and happily pulling, but he has a smile on his face and gripping the leashes tight."
Cesar does not let the dogs walk in front of him.
The older dog,graduated from obedience school, but even then she wasn't really doing what she was meant to, she run off three times on the last time there.
And they are both cat chasers, and my neighbor hates me for having dogs for that reason, hope it is just for that reason.
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#258705 - 12/05/2009 07:22 PM |
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Cats are coming into your yard and the neighbors have the nerve to blame you if your dogs chase them?? Seriously?
I too would like to recommend loose-leash to you (as in Melissa's post) if this is not a familiar mode for you.
And yes, IMO this is a one-dog-at-a-time thing. You will be so happy a few weeks from now when you are able to put them together and walk them both at once.
So tell us: Have you ever tried starting the dog indoors, with zero distractions, one dog at a time? (A hallway, the basement, or even a fairly large room .... just no exciting smells, sights, and sounds like outdoors.  )
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#258706 - 12/05/2009 07:38 PM |
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Hi Mandi,
Take one dog on the prong, high up on the neck and tight, when the dog forges, speed up to the dog so the leash is slack and give the dog a firm correction, don't do a steady "tug" on the leash, if the dog doesn't comply repeat with a stronger correction, the dog should get it really quick, you must be wimpy 
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#258715 - 12/06/2009 12:25 AM |
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Al, you're just too smooth!
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#258745 - 12/06/2009 02:31 PM |
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Al, you're just too smooth!
He is, isn't he?
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#258780 - 12/06/2009 06:48 PM |
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I was just teasing her.  How do you explain the loosening of the leash and the timing etc?
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