I know the dog should NEVER get loose...but on occasion he does. When his in the backyard and someone comes through the side gate and doesnt shut it, or he squeezes by them when they are coming in.
I'd like to teach him that he shouldnt run off....but I am not sure how to go about it.
I have read NOT to tell him NO when he returns because it is then to late, and he may take it as coming back is bad. I have read that you should NEVER tell your dog NO as he is coming to you even if he has done something bad.
So when he does come back or I do go get him and bring him back...how do I let him know that that behavior is unacceptable and that he is never to take off...no matter where we are at (although he is on a leash when we are you in public...but I am sure there can be 'instances')
David C.Frost Webboard User Reg: 01-23-2002
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Premptive training is certainly the best. Train him not to exit through the gate, unless you give him permission. It's a good exercise for the stay command.
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Any behavior that is reinforced is more likely to occur again.
I had this problem with my old Keeshond. The problem is that it's a self-rewarding behaviour. They always have a good time when they get loose and run around the neighborhood. I trained the heck out of him on the recall but every once in awhile he'd get a look in his eye and off he would go. I think the only way to effectively train on this is with a shock collar. That way you can give the command to come and if they disobey reinforce it with a correction.
Exactly!! that look!! When I am there and he gets out..I say come....sometimes he does and other times....he stares at me for a second and he's gone! That look...I can always tell...that certain look he gives right before he splits!!
Stephan R Weber Webboard User Reg: 02-16-2004
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But what's really funny is when they give you "that look" and then get zapped. The look on their face is priceless then! Some things are really kinda satisfying.
Just make sure he understands what come means before you zap him. That means lots of recall work that ends in good thing for him, and in situations where you can reinforce it (like he's wearing a long line). You don't want to zap him and have him head for the hills because he doesn't understand...
I've also, in the absence of a shock collar, but in a fenced area, walked dogs down like you do a horse. I first teach them to put their heads into my outstretched hand, and every blessing in the world happens for them. When they are conditioned to do that, they will often come and put their head in your hand instead of running.
Yeah, I havent worked with him a whole lot on the recall. I have started, and he does pretty good, but that is in the backyard with no distractions. I am awaiting Ed's obedience dvd (should be here tomorrow) to learn the correct way to go about it. I cant wait.
To me getting a dog to come back to you no matter what is going on around you is awesome! I hope to get to that stage!
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