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#22996 - 02/18/2005 06:02 AM |
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Hello everybody, <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> i have a question and would like a few opinions or ideas.
I have read through a few posts that talk a little about heeling backwards with your dog.
I have not thought to do this with my girl, but have decided that i might try it out.
In this situation, does the dog actually walk backwards, or does he turn around?
I would assume that they should walk backwards, but i doubt they would be too keen on the idea at first.
It would definately improve normal heeling, so that's another reason why i will teach.
Does anybody teach their pooch this?
If so, could you give me any suggestions about teaching this to my girl?
Any ideas will be appreciated.
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Aaron
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#22997 - 02/18/2005 11:25 AM |
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i am not exactly sure of your reasons for asking, but i will tell you what i saw at a recent michael ellis seminar. michael was working with a number of people whose dogs were proned to forging during heeling. these dogs, he trained to "back-up" so that they were in correct heeling position. ofcourse, the dog must first learn what it means to back up and to be trained physically to do it.
another thing, which i had not seen before, is trained for in french ring sport.....during heeling, the dog is actually walking backward next to the handler, facing the helper/decoy in a protection excercise. i'm sure this portion of ring sport has a name, but since i am not familiar with it, i don't know what its called. quite impressive, though.
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#22998 - 02/18/2005 01:50 PM |
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#22999 - 02/18/2005 02:32 PM |
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I've been working with an excellent trainer in an obedience class who suggested we to use the commands "heel back" and "heel up" to correct positioning when we were teaching the "heel" command. We also worked on making left turns with the dog in heel. I say "heel back" and quickly step in front of my dog and pivot. After the first minor collision, he stepped back quickly. Once we have this solid, I plan to use the heel back command to teach my dog to walk backwards. My trainer used the command to back his dog out of tight spaces between hospital beds and equipment. Is not a skill I think my dog needs but it will keep him learning!
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Hi, thanks for the replies.
Still haven't bugun any teachings of this healing as yet, would like a few more ideas just to see what others think.
Elana, good luck with your "heal back" teachings.
I think i will use a completely different word though, or just "back". Lest the chance of confusion in OB trials.
Any other suggestions would be appreciated too. Thanks
Aaron
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Quote:is trained for in french ring sport.....during heeling, the dog is actually walking backward next to the handler, facing the helper/decoy in a protection excercise. i'm sure this portion of ring sport has a name, but since i am not familiar with it, i don't know what its called. quite impressive, though. Quote:
Sounds very impressive Patricia!  You don't know of a link or similar by any chance do you?
Cheers
Aaron
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#23002 - 02/21/2005 02:53 PM |
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ed has a link to michael ellis' site in his page on links. i hope to attend at least one if not two more of his seminars this coming summer. so if you cannot find the answer to your question, p.m. me and i will be sure to find out more on it this summer. i'm guessing there are others right here on this board that could also answer your question.
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I use "back up" as a general ob command, usually when I'm in front of the dog. I've found it to be a very handy house command for when the dog gets between the couch and the coffe table, etc.
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I second Will: I find the "back up" command one of the most useful commands for everyday OB.
BTW, if you want to get fancy with your GSD, the colloquial German equivalent is "'ruck mal," pronounced "rook mahl."
I also use "geh mal" ("gay mahl"), which means "let's go," as a general-purpose "keep-moving" command when I'm walking with my dog off-leash.
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#23005 - 02/23/2005 07:45 AM |
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Thanks for the replies. Definately sounds like a great idea. Have you guys got any tips on initiating this, or is it one of those things that you just sort teach? LOL.
Thanks <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Aaron
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