Received the "Trg with Markers" dvd Thursday and by today my 12-week Beagle-mix pup gets downright giddy when I say "ready". He seats 100% of the time.
I haven't figured out how to shape "staying." Any tips?
I'd also like any guidance on teaching "drop" so I can calmly end our "tug" games. I can't think of the preliminary behaviour to mark.
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Hi Bev, I am in the process of teaching 'out' to my 3 dogs following M.E. Tug DVD - when 'out' command is given the toy stops moving and the play does not resume till the dog outs. When the dog does out it is marked immediately and the play begins right away. As the 'out' gets better duration is added between 'out' and the marker. So far it has been working nicely with my dogs, Monty actually started hitting me back with a toy when I toss it for him.
What did you do to get the toy to stop moving. Buckley will have the toy in his mouth. If I say 'out' and let go or not move the toy, B will pull and tug harder. I've tried to "claim it with my 'calm assertive energy'" but nada.
Any additional details re: how you did this would be great!
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As in the DVD I just keep still, immobilize the toy completely. Don't let go of the toy, just keep very still and wait him out. The dog gets bored sooner or later and outs. There are many ways to make it easier - the shape of the toy, the way you hold it, etc. The idea is to make it very clear that the game stopped and the only way to start it again is to obey your command. Then you make it very clear that the game began - you play very energetically, engaging the dog. In this clip you could see Monty out at around 0:37. We are not very good yet, I am making so many mistakes.
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teaching the stay, Ed covers that in his vid, basically you put the dog in a down, give a stay command and toss treats between there feet and back up. it'll take a few trys but eventually the dog figures out if he stays put treats will rain on him.
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Bev, the 'stay' command is one of the last that you should be working on (IMO). At 12 weeks, Buckley won't have enough of an attention span to give you a very long 'stay'.
To get the toy, have a treat handy and trade for it. Your goal at 12 weeks is to make everything a fun game, with no stress for your pup. Trading with a treat or another toy is a good way to accomplish this...
If Buckley has mastered the "sit" - what should I work on next to ensure he's safe outside, etc. Can you recommend an order of the commands to teach. I purchased the DVD "Trg with Markers" and love the principles, but have not yet figured out how to apply it to obedience commands.
The "stay" is nothing more then extending the time of whatever stationary behaviour the dog is doing. Sit, Down, stand!
You just extend the time the dog is in these positions before you mark and reward.
The stay command isn't even necessary once the dog starts understanding the commands.
AKC uses the stay command. Schutzhund doesn't. When I do AKC competition I just use a simple hand signal to "stay" the dog and that's only for the judges benefit.
As mentioned in a post above, 12 wks is way to early to work on that, other then seconds at a time. Baby steps for the puppy!
That works BUT you can create a dog that starts sniffing and looking all over the floor/ground for treats. That can lose points in competition.
I prefer to use a quiet bridge "good" and hand the dog treats. That keeps the dog's focus on me.
Add time, shorten distance! Add distance, shorten time!
Edited to say this is in reference to a post about tossing food between the dogs feet in the down.
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