My Dutchie completely loses her drive when the collar goes on. As soon as it comes off she goes back to normal. At home around my house she is not too bad, but when I take her away from home she looks like a dog that has been beaten. Any suggestions.
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My Dutchie completely loses her drive when the collar goes on. As soon as it comes off she goes back to normal. At home around my house she is not too bad, but when I take her away from home she looks like a dog that has been beaten. Any suggestions.
keep the collar on without turning it on, before ecollar training the dog should have the collar on for awhile and not associate it with training, put it on and take it off periodicaly without using it, I read two weeks some where,
What training instructions are you using?
I am actually an e collar trainer. I have trained lots of dogs who at first are fearful of the collar. never had a problem fixing it. But with my dog, she is ultra sensitive, feels an 8 on a dogtra 280. She is much worse away from home and she travels with me to clients often. She is 100% reliable with out the collar on, but I want to fix this problem, not just let it go. I got her when she was 8 months old, so I don't know how much pressure was put on her before.
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Reason I ask about the bark collar is that I see a drive difference with an e collar since I started using a bark collar with my lab. Often times if she gets worked up she'll trigger a stim with the bark collar and I believe that's why I see the difference now with the remote trainer now as well. In her case I prefer the drive difference because it makes her easier to get on task but she is not a ultra sensitive dog.
As a suggestion just have her wear a dummy collar as a regular collar for awhile. Eventually she should get over it. If you do that and she doesn't seem to be getting by it then I'd re evaluate if a e collar is really the right tool for this dog. Not every tool is appropriate for every dog.
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You could try asking the dog to perform very simple commands wherever you go with lots of enthusiastic praise and rewards while she is wearing the collar (make sure it's off and not too tight). It builds confidence. I have been doing this with my dogs during our first 2 weeks of e-collar training (Sat marks 3 weeks) and when they were getting used to prong collars. One of my dogs is very sensitive and we have to do this a lot.
As we say in the trade.......it's all in how you use the tool.
The suggestions made here are all good. What you are describing is a soft dog that is confused as to what the sensation on her neck means. Please please please consider learning to pair marker training with the use of the ecollar. Pairing a primary reinforcer with your commands and the use of the collar at a low, low, low level can work wonders. Get the Michael Ellis dvd on using food. The dvd is awesome and will help you in all facets of your dog training. Now that your dog is collar wise, you will have to give it a number of weeks without using pressure on the dog. If....the dog is generally upbeat with training, your progress will be faster. Also, pair putting the collar on with a treat.......good luck and please let me know how you are doing,
Happy Training,
Roni
I look forward to some of the posters correcting my impressions and opinions. Usually I learn a thing or two from responses to my obfuscation and opining.
Can't help you here Mike... I think everything you said was right on the money and makes perfect sense.
I will be forever grateful to this board for helping me understand that there is no "one-size fits all" in dog training. You can bet I'll put my next dog under the behavioral microscope as we're learning each other's language.
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