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I am watching the marker DVD (again :P ) and am wondering (again )... Do you reward after a duration mark (GOOD) or not? Or just sometimes? What times?
I see Cindy doing positions and saying GOOD for a well done position and rewards after it. But when you start adding duration to lets say SIT then you just say SIT, the dog sits, you say GOOD without rewarding and then YES and reward after that (if that makes sense). But my mind tells me that at some point with longer duration you might tell the dog GOOD, reward for duration and then release and reward wth YES.
If that make sense at all... So how about rewarding for GOOD?
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I am watching the marker DVD (again :P ) and am wondering (again )... Do you reward after a duration mark (GOOD) or not? Or just sometimes? What times?
I see Cindy doing positions and saying GOOD for a well done position and rewards after it. But when you start adding duration to lets say SIT then you just say SIT, the dog sits, you say GOOD without rewarding and then YES and reward after that (if that makes sense). But my mind tells me that at some point with longer duration you might tell the dog GOOD, reward for duration and then release and reward wth YES.
If that make sense at all... So how about rewarding for GOOD?
Say I am introducing duration. I'm adding duration gradually. So the early times, the dog gets the intermediate bridge (ggggood) for that fairly short time, then the marker and reward. The duration isn't suddenly zero to four minutes, so the dog has been building up his understanding-history of "ggggggood means I'm doing it right, and then comes the marker and reward!" "Gggggggoood" getting a little longer next time isn't going to be a big fat awful length of confusing no-marker time .... it's just a teeny bit longer than the last time.
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I reward with good for duration, being careful not to give some kind of physical cue they may take as a release. When I start adding distance to the duration I repeat the command too.
For what it's worth, I'll throw in my way of extenting the bridge (I think it's called).
I use yeah yeah.
I'll add one more yeah as I start extenting the duration. When it's time to move on, I'll drop the third yeah, but add time between the first two. Then it becomes two quick yeah yeahs with some time between those two. And then, a third yeah yeah is add and after that time add between all the yeah yeahs.
So the progression goes something like;
yeah yeah.
yeah yeah yeah.
yeah yeah..yeah yeah.
yeah yeah...yeah yeah.
yeah yeah....yeah yeah..
yeah yeah...yeah yeah..yeah yeah.
yeah yeah....yeah yeah...yeah yeah.
Yeah yeah.....yeah yeah...yeah yeah...
And so on.
Something like that.
eta.
Then the yeah yeahs start getting dropped with time add between, until no verbal crudge is available for the dog.
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When a toy is being used as the reward it would be impossible to use this reward for duration => we don't have to.
From Food DVD I do not recall seeing ME reward duration markers with food and the mark/reward is supposed to be a mini-event, which seems to be exactly the opposite to what we want to achieve with the duration marker.
In Markers DVD they delay the reward and introduce "good" for duration.
eta: in addition, the release marker is a special word associated with the reward, we don't use it outside of training sessions. Duration marker is often a feel-good word used often during the day without The Reward, it is not charged the same way the release marker is => does not associate with The Reward.
Actually, I saw Cindy give several "Good" food reinforcers in the video. However, the ultimate motivator for Rush is a toy reward after the terminal bridge. This may be dog specific?
My thought is that if you occassionally give tiny food rewards during the use of the duration marker, that you can induce good feelings in the dog when they hear the duration marker - the positive association thing. Then you have the mini-event (Jackpot, motion, silliness, excitement) at the terminal marker "YES!"
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