I am getting a German Shepherd puppy in two weeks, we are going to be training him in personal protection, but I hear some trainers will recommend not to do obedience first for protection training and others disagree and say to do obedience first to have control of the dog later. I am confused!!??
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With a young dog I'm really only concerned about house manners, motivational sits things like that.
Do you have a trainer arranged? If so I would get his feelings on it.
Psst, I lived on Cugjoe Key and Big Pine Key in the late 70's early 80's. I had lived in Key West for a while prior but decided it was time to move away from temptation when I drove my bicycle off the pier accidentally while bar hopping.
With a young dog I'm really only concerned about house manners, motivational sits things like that.
Do you have a trainer arranged? If so I would get his feelings on it.
Psst, I lived on Cugjoe Key and Big Pine Key in the late 70's early 80's. I had lived in Key West for a while prior but decided it was time to move away from temptation when I drove my bicycle off the pier accidentally while bar hopping.
Not only is Betty experienced enough and qualified to give advice on your dog, she is obviously qualified as well in the hazards of all the Keys have to offer!! LOL!
Psst, I lived on Cugjoe Key and Big Pine Key in the late 70's early 80's. I had lived in Key West for a while prior but decided it was time to move away from temptation when I drove my bicycle off the pier accidentally while bar hopping.
*giggle*
ahhhhhhh, Lol, thanks for sharing!
As far as the pupper goes..ask your trainer.
If you are going to try to owner train, then ask the club leader where you plan to train.
You will want to stick with whatever method the people you are going to train with will use.
In reality you won't know if the pup is going to have the temperament to be a PPD for awhile and Obedience is DEFINITELY the most important thing to have so start'em young. A dog with good drive and temperament will enjoy it anyway.
Thank you for all of the advice. I think the OB is important to have as long as there are no strong or hard corrections. We are going to talk o the local trainer first though. Thank you.
I'm with Dennis on this one.
The reason many hold back on OB is because to much correction/compulsion training can take the drive down in even a good pup.
It's not uncommon for a lot of folks to hold off training till the pup is a yr plus but, again, that's traditional training. Not a bad thing at all but it can be to much pressure for even good pups.
"Marker training, marker training, marker training". The puppy is learning as a game.
When the pup matures the corrections can be added if you desire.
I chose not to use any correction at all with my first GSD Thunder. We had great success. SCH III/CDX/HT/TT/and SAR. UD to come next yr.
Don't know that I will go to that extreme again but it was worth it to see what could be done.
No reason to "correct" a pup in OB if your teaching it with games.
Great video posted by Charlie!
Leadership doesn't have to mean physical control.
The reasoning, as I understand it, on minimum OB (as in just manners) for the first few months is that it makes the dog too dependent on the handler. It makes for working away from the handler close to an impossiblity for the dog.
But I subscribe to the notion it depends on the individual animal. There are some dogs (the good ones) that you just can't live with if you don't get some OB on asap and then there's some you have to bite your lip and let them grow into their own skin before you start stepping on them.
Shrug, there is no set combination for dogs. One will need a little more this and the next one needs a little less of that. In that way both animals become a well rounded and balanced dog.
Sorry, there are very few set rules to follow for where you want to go Alyssa.
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