reason to breed - a dog that is
#319774 - 03/02/2011 11:44 PM |
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hi, they say the only reason someone should consider breeding is; to improve the breed as a whole. (talking dog breeds here folks).
have the dilemma that i have decided i want to get a pup from my female. she is not considered a purebred anything and really not that much of a dog.
she has traits that i am happy with and want to continue. the vet said do it by the time she is 6yo.
i would only keep pic, what to do with the rest. seems cruel to destroy a litter just so i can get 1 replacement pup.
this line is a bit of a problem n i know noone else on the planet would put in the time n effort i do hence i would never let anyone else get a pup.
what options, how to find suitable homes for a difficult line
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Re: reason to breed - a dog that is
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#319781 - 03/03/2011 12:07 AM |
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well the good thing is every puppy in that litter would have a different personality. they may have some of the same charecteristics as the dam but not all. the sire has a little bit mixed in there too.
I have been around a lot of litters in the past and maybe 1 litter out of 10 has ONE pup that is a lot like it's momma. but that's just from my experiance. your dealing with the dam's breed (or mix there of), how it was raised and trained, the breed (or mix there of) of the sire, it's genetics or bloodline..ect.
I mean are you like your mom in everyway? the biggest problem you will come accross is if your dam is a mix or doesn't have a blood line you can trace there is no way to tell what you are going to get. If you love your female and want one just like her (personality or looks or both) I would look on CL or shelters or rescues for pups. you can tell them what you are looking for and they can help you find a perfect match.
I don't know if you have ever been around a dog that is in laybor..but you can lose your dog, puppies can easily die if you don't know what you are doing, not to mention the constant care the pups and of course the momma needs for the whole pregnancy and 8 weeks afterwards..i swore off breeding just for the cleaning part! oh..and i know of a many breeders who have put years and years into producing AMAZING working dogs..but there are always those softies in every litter. so if you do decide that you want to go through with it. don't destroy the litter. you will be able to see their personalities and be able to find homes for them easily based of that :
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Re: reason to breed - a dog that is
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#319783 - 03/03/2011 12:25 AM |
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Peter,
you'd be better off cloning than breeding. Go to South Korea and check it out.
By cloning you'd have fewer puppies to murder to fulfill your own selfish wants.
Ripley & his Precious
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Re: reason to breed - a dog that is
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#319784 - 03/03/2011 12:27 AM |
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yeah its crazy idea n i'm not a breeder. all i want is a continuation of this dog. the plan is too irresponsible,n bar cloning i won't get the same dog anyway, i would settle for at least a bit of her in a pup. but the whole thing is stupid.
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Re: reason to breed - a dog that is
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#319792 - 03/03/2011 01:48 AM |
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I’m not a breeder either and once I had the same thought about a dog I had.
It was a male and I had all kind of ideas how to make it work to get a puppy from him.
It was a crazy idea.
I’m glad I did not follow through for reasons Stephanie mentioned.
I have now a new puppy and I like already some traits more that I liked on my previous dog.
Maybe you also find one you will like even better.
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#319793 - 03/03/2011 02:09 AM |
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There's enough dogs in shelters etc that unless you're breeding to improve a breed you're just taking homes away from living animals JMO!
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Re: reason to breed - a dog that is
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#319812 - 03/03/2011 08:38 AM |
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not considered a purebred anything and really not that much of a dog.
she has traits that i am happy with and want to continue.
First off, you want to breed a dog that, and im quoting you, IS REALLY NOT THAT MUCH OF A DOG.
Second, what traits of your mediocre (paraphrasing for not much of a dog) dog is it that you find so irresistible? And what makes you think they would be carried down?
and to even suggest that you would pick one pup and don't know what to do with the rest of the litter, and think that destroying the rest of them is an option just solidifies my thoughts that you should get the dog fixed...quickly.
Oh, and switch vets while you're at it.
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#319818 - 03/03/2011 08:53 AM |
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I fully agree with wendy...and find another vet
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Kelly wrote 03/03/2011 10:50 AM
Re: reason to breed - a dog that is
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#319843 - 03/03/2011 10:50 AM |
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I am copying a post I put on a couple of months ago...
"I just got a forward that is an album of dogs that were PTS in New York. I am still crying for these dogs. I was just writing about how spoiled my dogs are at Christmas and how I would like nothing more than to spend all day with them... and then BAM! Look at FB and start bawling like a little girl....
I don't know if this is a public album or not but here is the page http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/album.php?aid=28871&id=152876678058553
Don't look if you will get sad or mad easily. Some of the dogs have notes about why they were surrendered... one that I clicked on said "no time." WTF???? There are so many ways of finding a decent home for a dog, but to just let it die alone and scared in a shelter is just utterly, morally, F-ing wrong."
Take a look at the link. There are about 14 more pages just like it of unwanted dogs PTS at one shelter in NY ALONE. Now, imagine they are all your puppies.
Irresponsible breeding like this is one thing that SERIOUSLY makes me mad. I honestly am hoping that you put this post on here just to raise some back hair. If you are serious, then my personal opinion of you has just plummeted to the unreachable.
--Kelly - and the 2 rescue dogs that live with me.
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Re: reason to breed - a dog that is
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#319862 - 03/03/2011 11:54 AM |
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i know through our rescue that we go into shelters every other month. We have to pick one or two of them and retrain their bad habbits learned from their previous owners just so they have a chance of finding a good home. Here in N. Texas alone there are around 300+ that get put to sleep every other week. and that's the dogs that make it to the shelters. the ones that are abused, dieing of starvation, neglected, thrown into a back yard and ignored, running wild, dumped in the country and left for dead, and many others are still out there. In my personal oppinion, for every one good home out there...there are 20 other "homes" where a dog is suffering. if you fix your female she will have less health problems down the road (assuming she is through her younger years) and you won't have to worry about her getting nocked up acidentally when she is too old to handle the stress.
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