Ok, so we have something new.

NILF has been key with my dog, she can be really pushy. So I dont ever pet her unless she is sitting or lying down.

She likes a good scratch under the chin, but lately after I have her sit and I'm petting her she will sometimes push her head down into my hand.

Usualy, I wouldnt think anything about it, but tonight she jumped on my room mate and wrapped her front legs around her leg.

I was in a different room and I didnt see it happen, but my roommate was laughing about how the dog "hugged" her leg.

The dog was at a point that she has earned the right to be allowed off leash in the house again when I'm home. She may be loosing that privelege again for now, at least when the roommate is here.

So my question is: If she does what I tell her to do by sitting or laying down, and then she pushes down into my hand or my lap when I pet her, should I push her away?

 Quote: lauren jeffery

Ok, so we have something new.

NILF has been key with my dog, she can be really pushy. So I dont ever pet her unless she is sitting or lying down.

She likes a good scratch under the chin, but lately after I have her sit and I'm petting her she will sometimes push her head down into my hand.

Usualy, I wouldnt think anything about it, but tonight she jumped on my room mate and wrapped her front legs around her leg.

I was in a different room and I didnt see it happen, but my roommate was laughing about how the dog "hugged" her leg.

The dog was at a point that she has earned the right to be allowed off leash in the house again when I'm home . She may be loosing that privelege again for now, at least when the roommate is here.

So my question is: If she does what I tell her to do by sitting or laying down, and then she pushes down into my hand or my lap when I pet her, should I push her away?

Your Roommate added "Distraction" to the training.

To be Fair to the dog, put her away when you can't be in the room with her. As her training becomes more solid with maturity, or time, then distraction is part of training.

& to answer your question, No, I wouldn't "push" her away when she pushes down into your hand or lap when you initiate, allow, petting.

Is it a "this feels so good I can't hold my head up" push or is it bratty?

Thats the thing Meredith, she's hard to figure out sometimes. She definitely respects me, and I wouldn't think anything of it if my roommate didnt live here.

The dog has absolutely zero respect for her, and the roommate seems to be completely incapable of doing any of the very simple things I ask of her in regards to the dog.

I try to keep the dog with me at all times by voice control, but tonight I let it slide a little and it sounds to me like the dog pretty much all but mounted her before being called back.

Just trying to stay on top of it, because since the roommate moved in there had been a backslide in obedience and a lot of problems temporarily got a lot worse. Started working even harder and things are getting better.

I just dont want to have it get worse again.

It must be a pain in the butt when your dog is smarter than your roommate.

WAY smarter!

lol

 Quote: lauren jeffery

Thats the thing Meredith, she's hard to figure out sometimes. She definitely respects me, and I wouldn't think anything of it if my roommate didnt live here.

The dog has absolutely zero respect for her, and the roommate seems to be completely incapable of doing any of the very simple things I ask of her in regards to the dog.

I try to keep the dog with me at all times by voice control, but tonight I let it slide a little and it sounds to me like the dog pretty much all but mounted her before being called back.

Just trying to stay on top of it, because since the roommate moved in there had been a backslide in obedience and a lot of problems temporarily got a lot worse. Started working even harder and things are getting better.

I just dont want to have it get worse again.

My dog does the same; did the same tonite to my son (jumped on him on the couch) he thinks it is cute, I know it is dominant.

But, I handle my dog, & do not ask him, or expect anyone else to handle her.

I think dogs do better, the "black & white" Ed Frawley speaks of, having 1 person as the handler.

Your dog respects you, she looks to you to lead.

I also think you may be expecting alot, to soon in training. There is no rushing it. Build on your relationship with the dog, that includes the petting!

You made a Handler error, leaving your dog unsupervised.
I never leave my dog alone, or in a situation where she has to make "choices"; when I am not home, my dog is secured!

You decide who your dog respects- not the dog.

That aside, don't set your dog up for failure.
There are very few people I will leave my dog alone with.

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You decide who your dog respects- not the dog.

That aside, don't set your dog up for failure.
There are very few people I will leave my dog alone with.

Very wise words!

I have had very little trouble with my females wanting to mount dogs/people, but my male is another story. He's not terrible about it, but it does happen every now and again...being that he is 10 months old and not neutered, I'd say that is par for the course.

In working with him, I have allowed him lots of contact with my group of family and friends. (We spend a lot of time together with all of the people and all of our dogs (6 dogs at current count). Because of this, we all share a very similar mindset and we all know it is important for our dogs to behave so we can continue to do things like travel together, etc.)

In this situation, if Vigo tries to mount someone, I have no problem with whoever it is giving him a firm "OFF" command if I am not in the room to do it. He listens to them also and therefore, has learned boundaries of how to behave around people. He still thinks about doing it with one particular person (who seems a bit like your roommate and giggles/squeaks when he has attempted to in the past), but generally makes the choice to occupy himself in another way. (I have seen him eye her big time and then go grab a toy to chew on...tells me he is learning...)

If your roommate cannot tell your dog no or redirect her or even tell you quickly what's going on, then I would not allow the dog to be around her without you being in the room.

Aaron, I don't leave my dog with anybody. I also don't expect my roommate to do anything other than ignore her if shes being obnoxious.

The dog is with me all the time. I am her only person, and now her large wire crate is in my bedroom even though it doesnt fit. This thing with my roommate happened when I was hanging up my jacket after we got in from a walk.

I can control the respect stuff, if that happened in front of me the dog would have been told off before it even happened. Im sure she would have complied, too.

As you know, we have had some challenges. My dog can be a bit of a social climber, her life has to be very clear.

Since I can control the dog, but not the roommate, thats what I focus on. Now I know that I cant leave them together for even a minute. Thats not easy in an two bedroom apartment, but I will do it.

But I have also seen that its important that I stay on top of the subtle stuff in regard to my relationship with the dog. More so since this girl moved in. Thats why I asked about the head leaning.