Kristi Molina wrote 04/19/2011 06:21 PM saw the veterinary dermatologist. couple ?s. #328454 - 04/19/2011 06:21 PM
Kristi Molina Webboard User Reg: 06-26-2010 Posts: 290 Loc: California Offline	So we finally saw the derma vet. I wish we would have gone sooner. I spent half of what I have spent at my regular vet for them to take guesses. So anyways he has a staph infection. Def allergies, although we didn't to the testing yet. Were going to treat the infection first. She did a lot of skin scrapings, and we are waiting to hear if there is a fungal infection as well. It can take up to 21 days. Question I have is, of course they were all that excited about him being fed raw. She wanted me to change his diet to hypoallergenic which I said we won't do any kibble. So then she said she recommended cooked pork and yams. And to stop the fish oil and vit e for at least 2 months and then re check him. I don't think that's a good idea. I can try a different meat, but I don't want to cut the supplements. What do you guys think?
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Connie Sutherland wrote 04/19/2011 06:39 PM Re: saw the veterinary dermatologist. couple ?s. [Re: Kristi Molina ] #328457 - 04/19/2011 06:39 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Edited by Connie Sutherland (04/19/2011 06:42 PM) Edit reason: eta
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Kristi Molina wrote 04/19/2011 06:45 PM Re: saw the veterinary dermatologist. couple ?s. [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #328460 - 04/19/2011 06:45 PM
Kristi Molina Webboard User Reg: 06-26-2010 Posts: 290 Loc: California Offline	Thank you, yah he has had lots of hot dog. I think she did want the pork and yams as an elim diet, but he's had both. Lots of pumpkin when he had coccidia(sp?) Before I figured out what was causing the diarrhea. If I need to do a meat he's never had it would have to be rabbit. I think that's the only meat he's *never* had. But that would be way too expensive. I'm not sure what to do next food wise. The chicken used to cause an instant reaction, but the turkey does not. We have done a diet when he was sick of just rice and boiled chicken no fish oil and his coat was horrible. His hair was falling out. I think he needs the vitamins. When it comes to nutrition, I trust your experience and opinions over the vets.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 04/19/2011 07:16 PM Re: saw the veterinary dermatologist. couple ?s. [Re: Kristi Molina ] #328470 - 04/19/2011 07:16 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline
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Connie Sutherland wrote 04/19/2011 07:25 PM Re: saw the veterinary dermatologist. couple ?s. [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #328475 - 04/19/2011 07:25 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	PS If by yams she meant sweet potato, I don't think sweet potato and pumpkin are related. I'm not saying he's never had sweet potato, but I am saying it's possible, even if he has had pumpkin. Pumpkin is a gourd/squash, and sweet potatoes are I-forget-what, but not that. Another aside: what we call yams in this country are really almost always sweet potatoes of one type or another. Real yams, as far as I know, are not grown as a commercial crop anywhere in this country.
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Anne Jones wrote 04/19/2011 07:47 PM Re: saw the veterinary dermatologist. couple ?s. [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #328489 - 04/19/2011 07:47 PM
Anne Jones Webboard User Reg: 04-29-2004 Posts: 3825 Loc: Northeast Offline	My understanding from my past (not the one that I have now)holistic vet had mentioned to me that they can have an allergic reaction to chicken & not to turkey. Connie may know why, but apparently their is enough of a difference even though they are both 'poultry'. MY DOGS...MY RULES
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Kristi Molina wrote 04/19/2011 07:49 PM Re: saw the veterinary dermatologist. couple ?s. [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #328492 - 04/19/2011 07:49 PM
Kristi Molina Webboard User Reg: 06-26-2010 Posts: 290 Loc: California Offline	yah the chicken and rice wasn't all that long term. but the diarrhea problem lasted so long we kept having to resort back to that and pumpkin until we could figure out what was going on. That is when I finally treated him with the panacur. It was for Giardia I think not coccidia. I mixed that up earlier. Too many health problems we have been through with him, I am forgetting what is what. Ok I will have to call her tomorrow and see if I can get some answers. Its so frustrating because I don't feel like most vets know what they are talking about nutrition wise. and They don't like that we do raw to begin with. So I usually just smile and say uh huh, ok no problem. Then come as you guys =) or research it.
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Kristi Molina wrote 04/19/2011 07:55 PM Re: saw the veterinary dermatologist. couple ?s. [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #328493 - 04/19/2011 07:55 PM
Kristi Molina Webboard User Reg: 06-26-2010 Posts: 290 Loc: California Offline	Quote: Connie Sutherland PS If by yams she meant sweet potato, I don't think sweet potato and pumpkin are related. I'm not saying he's never had sweet potato, but I am saying it's possible, even if he has had pumpkin. Pumpkin is a gourd/squash, and sweet potatoes are I-forget-what, but not that. Another aside: what we call yams in this country are really almost always sweet potatoes of one type or another. Real yams, as far as I know, are not grown as a commercial crop anywhere in this country. Yah your right. I don't know why I was thinking they were related. He has had pumpkin for sure for stool problems. Yams, maybe in previous kibble. Not sure. Also, if he has any yeast issues wouldn't sweet potato/yams feed that? My gut is telling me to do what I know works for his diet. Simple as possible, and pretty much all raw meat. and keep the fish oil/vit e.We have removed that before and it doesn't change anything.Plus he needs it for his hips. He has lost weight and is doing really well right now hip wise. He can also have green beans, without causing any reaction that we have noticed.
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Kristi Molina wrote 04/19/2011 07:56 PM Re: saw the veterinary dermatologist. couple ?s. [Re: Anne Jones ] #328494 - 04/19/2011 07:56 PM
Kristi Molina Webboard User Reg: 06-26-2010 Posts: 290 Loc: California Offline	Quote: Anne Jones My understanding from my past (not the one that I have now)holistic vet had mentioned to me that they can have an allergic reaction to chicken & not to turkey. Connie may know why, but apparently their is enough of a difference even though they are both 'poultry'. That is what I thought too. The vet said usually if they are allergic to chicken, they are also allergic to turkey. Is there a food book for allergy dogs?
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Anne Jones wrote 04/19/2011 08:14 PM Re: saw the veterinary dermatologist. couple ?s. [Re: Kristi Molina ] #328497 - 04/19/2011 08:14 PM
Anne Jones Webboard User Reg: 04-29-2004 Posts: 3825 Loc: Northeast Offline	I don't know, Kristi. He had just mentioned it to me kinda in passing when we were discussing allergies. My female has some enviromental allergies...certain pollens, but no food. I would follow whatever YOUR vet tells you, as he is treating YOUR dog & as Connie said...make sure that you speak directly with him. Have a list of questions so you can be sure to get answers to ALL your questions when you speak. Offer to pay additionally if you have to, to get the time directly WITH HIM & make sure he is very clear to your satisfaction answering your questions or don't hang up until you do. It will do no good to do whatever he is asking you to do incorrectly, as you will have to start all over again if it isn't...a valuable waste of time & no closer to any answers for your dog. Good luck. ETA.. I don't know about any books about foods sloecifically... but I think that LB has a couple of good allergy books that may have some good overall info to help you have some good questions to ask in the future with your vet. MY DOGS...MY RULES
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