I know, redirect redirect redirect
but, sometimes she just up and bites me,
like when the harness goes on, 250 or 300 times since I got her, she always bites my hand and grumbles, not a growel,thats when she's ripping my sweat shirt
it is always a gentle experience for Pisa, not me, with treats)

when I won't play she actually rips my jeans in the few seconds I can stand it (my wife now picks out my clothes for me)
then regrips till skin is involved and I'm forced to redirect, at my shoes she will root around untill she gets ankle, well I redirect cause it hurts like hell

now her mouth is big enough to fit my wrist in there, and she will and I try not to pull away cause that gets me a new skin rip, and redirect

sometimes she is so intent on biting me that redirecting dosent phase her, even waving the rag, gently slapping her head with it does nothing, so I take a bite rag, wrap it twice around my fingers and have to physically push it in her mouth to unlatch her from me.

70% of the time a sits will unlatch her and we go through shaping, touches and flirt pole, but in the back of my head I'm kinda worried about when she gets bigger, she is quite strong for her size(pound for pound my mastiffs don't hold a candle next to her) and is jumping towards my "sensitive areas" which I really don't want
I guess I am after reassurances that I'm handling this right and not creating a problem

Did you ever link to your breeder?
It's hard to find a Rottie this nice. I'd like to have them in the back of my mind when people talk about wanting a good working Rottie breeder.

It gets easier Dave, I promise.

Don't want until the dog is already having you for lunch, to redirect. The second the pup comes out of the crate, immediately get her engaged on the tug, on a toy, etc.

Ditch the harness, and start using a slip-lead so you can just throw it on her and get her out into the yard faster. Once you've got her engaged with a ball or a rag, then you can slip a harness on her while she's actively mauling something that isn't you.

Also- she's enjoying your reaction. You really have to ignore it as much as possible.

Video of how you redirect would be helpful to us, and probably helpful to you, as well.

Just out of curiosity, is a physical correction for biting ever advisable in a working puppy? I know for pets around 4 or 5 months it is still considered okay to correct for it in some circles.

Dave, this is not to say that you should correct the dog. I have never raised a schutzhund puppy. I do know exactly what you are going through. My dog was the same way, mouthy beyond mouthy for the first six months of her life. Actualy, she was mouthy until she was a year old, though not as bad as the first four months that she lived with me.

Only now at two years old she has the self control not to bite me at all when shes worked up and playing.

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Also- she's enjoying your reaction.You really have to ignore it as much as possible.

This is a very good point. Be careful not to act like prey and intesify the game. Any noise or movement (other than the toy) will add to the fun for her.

I haven't said the kennel name, kinda thought that was taboo from some of the old threads I read, but am more than happy to let you know if it's ok. Bob has been great, I call him with stupid questions and he patiently answers, and calls me back even when I don't leave a message(gotta love call display)

not the cheapest puppy, could have got 20 kijji pups, but byb breaders with rotts scare me with their ignorance (not that I know much but am learning) and I wanted to be sure of temperment

as for the slip lead ??? I am having her wear a flat coller but don't hook it up to leash yet(another topic I think)

I take the harness off cause she will chew them in crate, I alternate between two styles,

as for ignoring, I do my best, but her mouth is stronger than my resolve

I will try for a vid this weekend yet, my camera does that and after watching your videos on u tube I would love to have your input, and if you are up north I got a place you could stay

The biting will stop, it will.
All my pants were wrecked and my guy only matured out at around 25 lbs.
It's hard not to freak out when it HURTS. I did freak out sometimes and scared my pup, so don't do that.
Have fun.

"This is a very good point. Be careful not to act like prey and intesify the game. Any noise or movement (other than the toy) will add to the fun for her."

yup, she loves when I squeal, and forget about running or dodging, she just gets more worked up

as for corrections, I thought around 6 to 8 months, and I know rotts are a bit different in reaction to corrections, and my breeder is going to help walk me through it, but I would love all the input possible

this little girl is hard, no freak out affects her( I do really try not to), I've accidently stepped on her paws a few times , she yelps and then in less than half a second its like nothing happened

How are rotts different in regard to corrections?

No sarcasm here, just genuine interest.

my understanding is that rotts could be more resentfull of corrections
I'm not wording it right, but have read and been told so