we are taking back the other food. I won't start him on solids till YOU GUYS say OK

Lamb and rice lg breed puppy OK?

I don't want crap with all the nasty stuff in it for my boy!

What did you have for him? why not slowing introduce that when he's ready? I see no reason to take it back for another food.

FWIW, I personally think Diamond naturals is a decent mid-grade food. Better than grocery store brands, IAMS, eukanuba and the like. Not as good as Wellness, Orijen, Nature's variety. I feed it to a couple of my dogs when I'm pinching pennies and they do fine on it.

I can't remember for sure 'cause I feed raw & not kibble,but wasn't dianmond one of the ones that had major recalls a couple of years ago? Also, arn't a number of other brands 'made' on diamond food plants?

Hopefully, I'm wrong.

Nick there are better foods out there...some Mara mentioned...but other higher end kibbles are: Taste of the Wild, Innova, Califiornia Natural.

Some more info:

http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_food_reviews/showproduct.php?product=1486&cat=all

Personally, I would keep him on this food for now, until he is settled in and then make a switch.

I just looked it up....it was Diamonds dogs foods & other foods processed on their equipment in 2006. Here is one of the first link when the recall was first discovered.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10771943/

 Quote: nick logan

we are taking back the other food. I won't start him on solids till YOU GUYS say OK

Lamb and rice lg breed puppy OK?

Can you link us to the exact food you bought? There are many many Wellness lines (I believe you said Wellness). I very much doubt that you need to return it, but link us.

Depending on which it is, it might be a kinda rich food for a swap-food, but not if started in SMALL MEALS (which I think was the problem: the whole day's food in one meal).

I think most likely is this:

"Personally, I would keep him on this food for now, until he is settled in and then make a switch. "

So would I. He is on rice now.

I expect perfect poops within 48 hours or so, and diarrhea can be avoided (almost without fail!) if you will slooooooooowly add the commercial food to the rice diet. That is, when you see a perfect poop, one fourth of the small first meal the next morning can be kibble. Then the poop is observed again.

The poop will dictate whether you move ahead, back up, or stay where you are for a bit.

Nothing is more important (as far as nutrition goes) at the moment than getting his gut back to normal so all the nutrients are absorbed instead of squirted out.

The diarrhea pics were not that bad at all..... I think it was all "new food and overfeeding."

And I don't think another switch is in his best interest right now.

FWIW - The Diamond food was recalled because of an issue with corn. The Naturals line does not contain corn. And Diamond revamped many things after the recall - including their testing/safety protocal. Taste of the Wild is made by Diamond - it's their grain free line (seems to be the most reasonably price grain free food out there). Canidae is also made at Diamond plants as is the Costco brand Kirkland dog food and I think Solid Gold might be too, but not positive on that.

Innova and California Naturals are a superior food for now at least, but the company that made them was recently bought out by Proctor and Gamble. So far the ingredients have stayed the same and for now I think they are still really good foods - just keep your eyes open as that may change in the future.

But above everything else - don't rush into switching him right now. He needs bland and highly digestable (ie, rice)!!!

ETA - whatever you do, listen to Connie!!! She really knows her stuff in the food department (well actually, in just about every department!!)

All the above are the reasons that I feed raw & always have with my dogs. Just too many variables with what & where the ingreedients are coming from that go into kibbles. And who's equipment they are porocessed on.

When you buy the way that I do( wholesale & 200 lbs at a time)...it is the same cost as a high end kibble even with the suppliments.Infact it is less.

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When you buy the way that I do( wholesale & 200 lbs at a time)...it is the same cost as a high end kibble even with the suppliments.Infact it is less.

I'm still insanely jealous of your ability to purchase from a restaurant wholeseller... No luck here as of yet. I need to put another push on in that effort!

One of these days I want to get all of mine on raw. I tried last fall and it just didn't work for Kenzi - after 2 rounds of Flagyl and a 36# (on the thin side) dog that had gotten down to 30.5#, I abandoned the idea and put her back on kibble. So right now I have two kibble dogs and one raw.

I'll try again when I'm done with school next year. Or when I can afford to put her on THK.