Selene lindhout wrote 05/25/2011 04:26 AM feeding q: bones and pugs #334296 - 05/25/2011 04:26 AM
Selene lindhout Webboard User Reg: 05-22-2011 Posts: 58 Loc: Netherlands Offline	ok so, ive realised recently how much of an idiot my vet is :S All of my animals eat raw, the cats, birds and dogs. (yes we ppl do too, Paleio diet) My vet recomened that i filet all the meat i give the dogs since they really do choak on everything i feed them.. i gave them a veal leg bone to chew on and she manages to chew off a growth ring and choak on it, requiring a trip to the vet to get it out. I see here an emphasis on the meel from the bones and ofc i think its sad that they dont get the yummy marrow. Anyone have any idas on how i can give my doggies this benefit w/o worring that im gunna be ruunning to the vet every day or worse? Precious pugs
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Lynne Barrows wrote 05/25/2011 05:23 AM Re: feeding q: bones and pugs [Re: Selene lindhout ] #334297 - 05/25/2011 05:23 AM
Lynne Barrows Webboard User Reg: 09-22-2007 Posts: 2531 Loc: S. Florida Offline	Buy a meat grinder... (and grind the bones and meat together)
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Tracy Collins wrote 05/25/2011 08:53 AM Re: feeding q: bones and pugs [Re: Lynne Barrows ] #334305 - 05/25/2011 08:53 AM
Tracy Collins Webboard User Reg: 10-09-2008 Posts: 1917 Loc: St. Louis, Missouri Offline	Offer smaller, softer bones. A pug can easily handle the soft bones of a chicken neck or chicken back. Or even an entire "Cornish Hen" (which is just a juvenile chicken). There are also fish bones (from fresh, frozen or canned fish). Quail, rabbit, duck--there are plenty of small carcasses that a pug could tackle no problem. A veal shank is not food for a pug, it is a toy (recreational bone). Or as Lynne suggests, grind. A decent grinder will turn an entire turkey, bones and all, into hamburger. Bones aren't just a "nice to have" item in a raw diet. A raw diet of ONLY boneless meat is a nutritional disaster unless you are prepared to compensate for the lack of calcium with some kind of supplemental calcium. Cinco | Jack | Fanny | Ellie | Chip | Deacon
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Tracy Collins wrote 05/25/2011 09:46 AM Re: feeding q: bones and pugs [Re: Tracy Collins ] #334315 - 05/25/2011 09:46 AM
Tracy Collins Webboard User Reg: 10-09-2008 Posts: 1917 Loc: St. Louis, Missouri Offline	too late to edit, so I just want to add--bones in a raw diet isn't about offering the dog "yummy marrow." The bones themselves are the requirement. The kind of bones one thinks of as marrow bones (generally leg bones of a large mammal) are too hard for a dog of any size to consume. Cinco | Jack | Fanny | Ellie | Chip | Deacon
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Jenny Arntzen wrote 05/25/2011 09:55 AM Re: feeding q: bones and pugs [Re: Tracy Collins ] #334317 - 05/25/2011 09:55 AM
Jenny Arntzen Webboard User Reg: 12-06-2010 Posts: 721 Loc: British Columbia, Canada Offline	We buy ground chicken carcasses from the butcher in frozen blocks. It has bones and gristle in. Also, it is pretty cheap to buy packages of necks and backs. We use a cleaver to chop them down a bit because the dogs won't eat the pieces full size.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 05/25/2011 10:42 AM Re: feeding q: bones and pugs [Re: Selene lindhout ] #334322 - 05/25/2011 10:42 AM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: selene lindhout ok so, ive realised recently how much of an idiot my vet is :S All of my animals eat raw, the cats, birds and dogs. (yes we ppl do too, Paleio diet) My vet recomened that i filet all the meat i give the dogs since they really do choak on everything i feed them.. i gave them a veal leg bone to chew on and she manages to chew off a growth ring and choak on it, requiring a trip to the vet to get it out. I see here an emphasis on the meel from the bones and ofc i think its sad that they dont get the yummy marrow. Anyone have any idas on how i can give my doggies this benefit w/o worring that im gunna be ruunning to the vet every day or worse? Like Tracy and others, I think I may be reading here a little confusion between RMBs (the digestible bone that is the NECESSARY basis of a raw diet), and recreational bones, such as marrow bones. http://leerburg.com/feedingarawdiet.htm#RMB  Quote: tracy collins too late to edit, so I just want to add--bones in a raw diet isn't about offering the dog "yummy marrow." The bones themselves are the requirement. The kind of bones one thinks of as marrow bones (generally leg bones of a large mammal) are too hard for a dog of any size to consume. .... Bones aren't just a "nice to have" item in a raw diet. A raw diet of ONLY boneless meat is a nutritional disaster unless you are prepared to compensate for the lack of calcium with some kind of supplemental calcium. Ditto! I very much hope that no one feeds just meat and marrow bones. This is NOT a balanced raw diet. The dog doesn't need marrow, but absolutely needs the digestible bones in such RMBs as chicken backs. I don't give recreational bones, and particularly not to a dog who has demonstrated the eagerness and ability to get pieces off one.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 05/25/2011 10:49 AM Re: feeding q: bones and pugs [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #334324 - 05/25/2011 10:49 AM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	To emphasize: PLEASE don't give any dog a raw diet of just raw muscle meat and recreational bones. This is a badly unbalanced diet for any dog, and a disaster for a growing one. Digestible bone (soft, edible bone) is crucial to the raw diet.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 05/25/2011 10:52 AM Re: feeding q: bones and pugs [Re: Tracy Collins ] #334325 - 05/25/2011 10:52 AM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: tracy collins Offer smaller, softer bones. A pug can easily handle the soft bones of a chicken neck or chicken back. Or even an entire "Cornish Hen" (which is just a juvenile chicken). This is what the Pugs in my house enjoy. This basis of chicken backs is so cheap and so simple that the GSD often gets exactly the same dinner components.
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Selene lindhout wrote 05/25/2011 03:38 PM Re: feeding q: bones and pugs [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #334379 - 05/25/2011 03:38 PM
Selene lindhout Webboard User Reg: 05-22-2011 Posts: 58 Loc: Netherlands Offline	Ok, i was actually scared of feeding fish and chicken bones since ive heard all my life that those bones are dangerous to dogs cause they splinter. my cats get everything whole but again i was told cats can handle it dogs cant.. i know marrow isnt just yummy but its also essentail but it is yummy too The diet my family and i are on also requires bone marrow from chicken and beef ect so i uslay spoon a bit out for the dogs. We have removed all recreational bones from the house since they just choak on them. Ive never had a raw diet written out so i will defianly check that link.. the breeder jsut said "let them eat what they would eat in the wild" sounds silly since pugs are not a willd dog. I was also told that the marrow was nessesary as it provvides natural mono fats which they need? hmmm * clicks the link* Precious pugs
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Michael_Wise wrote 05/25/2011 03:47 PM Re: feeding q: bones and pugs [Re: Selene lindhout ] #334381 - 05/25/2011 03:47 PM
Michael_Wise Webboard User Reg: 07-10-2006 Posts: 4454 Loc: Arkansas Offline	Problem with "letting them eat as they would in the wild", is they aren't in the wild. They aren't getting to choose. They only get what we give them. That's why you have to do your absolute best to make sure everything they WOULD eat is available. That includes the entire animal, and any digestive contents that might be in the animal. Now, most of us don't have whole chickens or rabbits at our disposal, so we have to do our best to mimic that with various animal parts and processed vegetables. That includes meat, bone, organs, and some vegetable matter.
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