Well I hope this topic gets some responses. I know the general forum gets a lot more attention but hopefully someone reads this that can provide insight.
After a year of wanting we are finally ready to get a mal pup. We are looking for a dog that has medium drive (for a mal, I understand that is still very high compared to most other breeds), is small to average size for a mal and a female. Preferably the dog will not be extremely reactive.
My plans for the dog include Schutzhund as the primary training focus with flyball and dock diving added in for fun. We also will do a lot of hiking and swimming with the dog.
The dog will live in a household with two people and one other male neutered small dog (30lbs, mutt). We have a 1.3 acre yard and while we do not have a fence, we are surrounded by woods. We let our current dog out off leash to play fetch with us etc on his e-collar after developing a strong recall. Will probably do the same with the mal pup.
I have contacted Loganhaus Kennels already. I live in SW VA and would prefer a dog I can pickup but am willing to have a dog shipped from anywhere. I will be ready for the dog Late Oct/Early Nov.
If anyone has any insight on breeders I should look into I would much appreciate it.
If you are truly interested in Schutzhund, and this is your first experience with a working dog (can't tell from your post) then let the breeder know you are a beginner, and they should assign you an appropriate dog. Mike Suttle should be able to help you find the right pup.
If you think you might just dabble, go with a rescue who likes to play with toys.
Also, the way I'm reading your post in regards to drive, I think what you're worried about is how the dog will 'act' when it's not working. How they behave in the house is completely up to you to train. There are training strategies to teach them to be calm and to just hang out inside, and to turn on when you take them out to train.
Thanks for the input. I am definitely 100% upfront about my experience and want the breeder to pick the dog for me. I don't pretend to know enough to pick a puppy.
I do trust Mike and I have heard nothing but great things about his dogs, but his waiting list is fairly long. We have gone from 3 dogs to 1 in just a few short months and its been pretty hard on us losing them. The house definitely feels empty and we would really enjoy the company again. I defintely am not interested in rushing in to anything and getting a dog that is not a good fit but would like a dog sooner rather than later.
It is very important for anybody thinking about getting a working line Mal pup to think long and hard about their suitability as owners/trainers of this breed.
Mike Suttle has, on average, some pretty serious working dogs. He does not focus on breeding dogs for sport. That's not to say some of his pups aren't good for sport, but it's just not his focus. I've seen a couple of dogs from his breedings, and they gave even accomplished trainers a run for their money.
That being said, I urge you to really think through your situation and to be 100% up front with other breeders about your experience, home situation, current dogs, and resources.
If titling in SchH is the main goal then a nicely bred GSD will provide a higher success probability, especially in the tracking phase. Not saying Mal will be a bad choice but the chances of titling will be less as compared to a GSD.
If titling in SchH is the main goal then a nicely bred GSD will provide a higher success probability, especially in the tracking phase. Not saying Mal will be a bad choice but the chances of titling will be less as compared to a GSD.
HUH??? Are you saying here that Mals can't track??? If so, what are you basing this on? Tracking was probably the easiest thing I ever taught my Mal....
As for breeders, Donna Matey, Konnie Hein or Michael Ellis are my top picks. All 3 produce solid and stable pups.
You can also look into ABMC Malinois Rescue and adopt. There are some REALLY nice young Mals in rescue right now that would be able to do what you are looking at.
If titling in SchH is the main goal then a nicely bred GSD will provide a higher success probability, especially in the tracking phase. Not saying Mal will be a bad choice but the chances of titling will be less as compared to a GSD.
HUH??? Are you saying here that Mals can't track??? If so, what are you basing this on?
Yes, based on seeing the difficulty handlers face when teaching SchH style tracking. It can be done but is easier with GSD's. Have you titled your's to SchH3 and trialed at National level?
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