I know the extreme angle on the American breds are not healthy but, the hump in the back of the German breds make me think the same way...is the hump a form of breeding too extreme?
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Those show GS in the vid don't look like they have very strong hind legs. I have seen a couple around like that, I don't know they were show dogs but thought they had serious problems.
Jim I like what you say about Shepherds and motorcycles so true.
I've been around bikes for 40 years and not enough with Shepherds.
Important to note is that when German Shepherds are 'stacked' they look much more sloped. Working line shepherds are what you are looking for, I think.
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What are you planning on doing with the dog?
Workinglines are great, but require a lot of work (have three of them so I know!). There are some more balanced American showlines out there, just harder to find. The ones you are seeing with a roach (that's what the hump is called) are typically west German showlines.
The video Ram posted is exactly why I don't own a GSD today. Growing up, they were my favorite breed and it was my dream to someday own one. Sadly, by the time I was old enough to have my own home and a dog, all the GSDs I was seeing had the roached backs and/or horribly over-angulated, cow-hocked rear legs. I know it's a show-ring fad, but who in the world finds that attractive???
Now, thanks in large part to joining this site, I know about the existence of working line GSDs and that they more closely resemble the GSDs I remember from childhood. I think it still requires a lot of homework and research to be sure you are getting what you want. Just because someone is breeding working lines, it doesn't automatically follow that they are breeding quality dogs, or dogs that will fit in with your particular lifestyle.
(But my hopes have been rekindled that maybe there is still a GSD in my future, assuming I could keep up with their energy levels!)
I used to show AKC GSD and was considered blasphamas because I thought the over angulated dogs were weak dogs and said so. I have a breeder in the Denver area that I think has the right idea and has German working lines that top line looks much better than AKC and the hind end looks stronger than some of the German Show lines. I get very upset everytime I think about what we have done to the best breed in the world...IMHO.
Any day with a Shepherd is a Good day. Any day with a Shepherd and a Motorcycle is a Great day
Well, this thead has taught me a lot. I was under the misconception that German line GSDs in general were all of the appearance of working line GSDs. I didn't realize their show line dogs were as different from working lines as the AKC show lines are.
This makes me sad for the breed and so appreciative of the Mal I have.
I was hoping the Germans would not bend to the show influence. Character of the German Shepherd Dog is so important and it has eroded in the American bred...hopefully it wont in the German show lines.
Any day with a Shepherd is a Good day. Any day with a Shepherd and a Motorcycle is a Great day
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