I heard from a friend of mine today and she was talking with a well known Schutzhund trainer....Been around for lots of years, had pretty good success in the past although IMO none of his actual performances were anything to write home about. His dogs always heel correctly but with NO focus and (again my opinion)an almost fearful or pressured look to the overall picture. His comment was that he dislikes the way people train for the dogs to look at them while heeling---"makes them look like sissies"
I understand that for a police dog or personal protection dog attentive heeling may not be practical but we are talking sport here. Any opinions on this? I personally like the look of a dog and handler looking at each other while working--they appear to be a TEAM that way.
From what I've gathered, in Germany attention isn't so much stressed upon. All my dogs I've ever gotten have never been attentive when they've gotten over here. I have to train all of them to "watch" me. Our club was having a discussion on this the other day, just a matter of judges I think, over there doesn't matter, but here they want to see the attention and focus of the dog. I personally want a dog that's paying attention so any little move is picked up on.
Attention is stressed just as much in Europe as it is here - just watch the WUSV or BSP tapes. Certainly it is impractical for "real life" or for a true protection dog, but this is a sport and the goal is "freudig arbeit" - joy of working. Someone decided head-wrap expresses that better and a trend was born (tho I gotta admit, I love the way a good team looks! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> )
Although it is not the most practical or natural thing I love the way a super focused dog looks and feels. It is almost like he's saying, "Ok boss, I'm with you!"
I think what Cindy was looking for does this way of heeling make a good dog look like a sissy? I have seen many hard dogs heel with focus and I for one like focused heeling do NOT think dog's look like sissies heeling like this
I teach two seperate commands... "fuss" means watch me, and "heel" does not.
I find that I use the regular "heel" command much more for day to day function. Its sometimes helpful to have the dog walk next to me but remain alert to surroundings.
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It is a beautiful thing on the field to attain that level of attention, I like.
BUT, they do kinda look like sissies. . .
I'm not saying they ARE sissies, they just kinda look like it. A dog stalking at the side of his handler, eyes skanning the area for bad guys, with a mean ass look on his face says to me, "I'm a bad ass, you wanna -F- with me?" Prancing at the side of ones handler says something a bit different. Sissies. . . <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
I think Van Camp needs to get in touch with his "feminine side" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
How anyone (Van Camp ) can equate powerful focused attentive heeling with being a sissy is beyond me. Tell Bernhard Flink's dog Itor or Kevin Sheldahl's dog CJ they are sissies!!!
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