Re: What does this mean?
#30138 - 12/05/2002 04:23 PM |
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Colleen:
First off, how old is your dog, how long have you had him/her and what other types of training have you done with it?
Next, this would only show that your dog/puppy wasn't bothered by the noise of gunfire. I don't think this was a true temperment test of the dogs ability. Now if you have a 10 week old puppy and this is the first time it's been out of the house that's one thing, but if your dog is 2 years old and had some training, that would be another thing completely.
If you want to see a really good test, look on this site for the Flinks method of testing. (Sorry I'm not good with pasting URL's, etc). A good test will be time consuming no matter what age your dog/puppy is. Also, you should get some constructive feedback as well. If your dog is tested correctly, you will see the prey drive, food drive, pain tolerance, etc all tested.
Hope this helps,
Brandon
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Re: Re: What does this mean?
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#30139 - 12/06/2002 12:04 AM |
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Finally an answer. My lady is 16 months. I rescued her young. I have done formal obedience with her...and am using a prong collar presently.
I feel that they just wanted me to see what it was all about etc....but that they also wanted to see a little more of what my dog was made of.
I am quite serious in my intention to do this sport and WELL with her.
I was just curious on what they look for...if she passed (the basics) etc. I am leary about posting on her sometimes because they will post in on 'dumb and dummer'.
Thanks..any more info is always helpful.
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Re: Re: What does this mean?
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#30140 - 12/06/2002 12:16 AM |
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Hello:
Sheppie, don't worry about posting, read all you can read and then get some books and tapes and then ask good solid clear questions. You will always get answers, most of them pretty good too. Don't worry about being new or asking a silly question, we've all been there.
I tried to find the Flinks puppy/dog testing information on the website, but I couldn't find the "site search" box - maybe it was moved or something. In the interium, go to the training articles and Q&A section and read about the various OB drills that you can do.
Also, try and ask around and I'm some someone out there can find it for you and post the link.
Hope this helps,
Brandon
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Re: Re: What does this mean?
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#30141 - 12/06/2002 12:27 AM |
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Found the puppy test information:
http://leerburg.com/index.htm?http://leerburg.com/puppytest1.htm~mainFrame
Also, with a dog that age, you can start doing some serious OB, foundation for tracking, and bite development as well. First of course you have to see if your dog is capable of doing the work and if you are capable or handling the responsibiliy of this type of training. It's really bad to have a dog who is only partially trained, especially where bite work is concerned.
Hope this helps,
Brandon
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Re: Re: What does this mean?
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#30142 - 12/06/2002 08:52 AM |
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Thanks BC for the info.!!
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Re: Re: What does this mean?
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#30143 - 12/06/2002 11:01 AM |
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Anytime, glad to be able to help keep us posted.
Train Smart,
Brandon
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Re: Re: What does this mean?
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#30144 - 12/06/2002 02:17 PM |
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At the Sch club : i am sure they were just seeing if you dog was reactive or not to gunfire and the helper . As for tracking in the snow or not,i have never had problems starting dogs in the snow and then into grass or dirt.By the time you get the dog tracking well it will be time to track on grass. You either have a tracking dog or not. Happy training .Peter
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Re: Re: What does this mean?
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#30145 - 12/06/2002 06:22 PM |
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So the fact that she did not react to the gun was good? And DID react to the helper (barked ) good? He only let her bark for 10 seconds or so and told me to "run her off"......she kept lunging back at the helper.
I want to do this and don't want to do a half ass job at it.
Another question is this....I have another lovely soft housedog (50 lbs) and is 5 years. This dog is fairly well trained and follows me everywhere. If one is trained this way....and the GSD is trained in schutzund, could this be a potential problem for my older soft dog? Or just the opposite as the GSD ( who is very rough with the older dog) will be so well trained?
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Re: Re: What does this mean?
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#30146 - 12/08/2002 08:06 PM |
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Sheppie, I would think if you start training now, your dog can be titled at 24 months of age, if you wait another 2 yrs. your dog in my opinion will be old.
To give you an idea of age, while I was a member in a Schutzhund club in Zweibrucken Germany in 83, one of the dogs in the club went for the world title at the ripe old age of 24 months old!
Tim
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Re: Re: What does this mean?
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#30147 - 12/09/2002 04:59 PM |
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I think they were checking to see if she was gun shy and was she easy to startle I've seen some dogs. Try to break and run at the sound of gun fire or loud noises like fire crackers, or door slamming. The same for being surprises by a unknown subject that peers out of cover.
It may not have been a temperment test, but a test to see if she was gun shy and fearful if startled. She passed the test because she gave the correct responce. She might be a little sharp which is not all that bad.
One of my dogs trainer when I introduce him to my GSD at 8 months, made a jesture behind me that I did not see. The GSD barked and growled at him, Mat never trusted him after that and kept an eye on him even after I told him that the guy was Ok. The trainer just smiled and said I think he might work out.
They were checking to see if the dog have legs to stand on, in the protection field. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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