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#3492 - 07/01/2003 11:21 PM |
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I'm going to look at a couple of 7 month old pups tomorrow. Both parents are imported working dogs (don't know the lines yet). They have been kennel raised with minimal socialization except by the breeder. I will be able to keep one if I like and can return it at anytime I see fit. Even if I decide against one, the breeder is on the SAR team and asked me to work with them at SAR practice/training. Her thoughts are, that even if I decide not to get one, the time spent at training will only do us both good. Any thoughts? This sounds to good, but I know the breeder.
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#3493 - 07/01/2003 11:45 PM |
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I never like the sound of litter mates that have grown up together, I mean have they been seperated or have they been together this whole time? If I was in your situation I would consider checking out the pups and taking the dominant of the two and see what I thought of it. I wouldnt consider taking them both and trying. Taking both would be the same old thing with these pups. They are probably way to dependant on each other now, if theyve been together all this time.
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#3494 - 07/01/2003 11:52 PM |
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David, good point. I THINK they have seperate runs, but that's a question I'll ask. I would only take one. If after a time, that didn't work out, and she still had the other, I could take that one. The breeder has a lot of faith in what I could do for her dogs even if I decide against it. I'll still work them at SAR training reguardless of taking one or not. I don't think I can loose on this. (famous last words) :rolleyes:
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#3495 - 07/02/2003 02:29 PM |
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I saw the two pups today. The female, although sweet and lots of drive was way to distracted by other dogs. The male was just returned to the breeder because of issues living in an apartment. He seem to have some nerve issues. Not bad, but not what I want. Gonna keep dreaming about my puppy. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
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#3496 - 07/02/2003 03:06 PM |
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They have been kennel raised with minimal socialization except by the breeder. The female, although sweet and lots of drive was way to distracted by other dogs. The male was just returned to the breeder because of issues living in an apartment. He seem to have some nerve issues. Sounds like they are undersocialized. Not something I, personally, would look for in a SAR candidate.
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They have been kennel raised with minimal socialization except by the breeder.... Even if I decide against one, the breeder is on the SAR team and asked me to work with them at SAR practice/training. Sounds like they are undersocialized. Not something I, personally, would look for in a SAR candidate. I'm surprised that anyone involved in SAR would raise puppies this way... let alone puppies intended to grow up to be SAR dogs. If one reads the SAR dog email lists, as I do, one will see that the typical pup destined for serious SAR work receives a massive amount of early socialization... with LOTS of people. They also receive a lot of enviromental enrichment. Makes me question if this breeder / SAR dog handler is particularly knowledgable.
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#3499 - 07/02/2003 03:47 PM |
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BTW, I'm not commenting on this particular person. I don't know them, and there may be more to the story than what we're getting. My comments above are just in general terms, not directed to any specific individual.
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Lisa, I understand completely what you are saying. Her husband was in a car wreck about 5-6 months ago (paralized now) and the dogs were put back in the priority list. I think the pups had the potential at one time, but definately not now. She's determined to make something of the pups. That's why the offer was made to me. She also understands why I want to start out with something else. Now I think they'll make nice pets with a little work.
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Wow, that's harsh. Sounds like she's got a lot on her plate. That's one thing I've seen some SAR handlers do, and I think it has potential to be detrimental to the quality of training. You can only train so many dogs and do it well. Perhaps it might be better for her to socialize the crap out of these dogs and try and place them in nice pet homes, with knowledgeable people. But, if she's determined to work them in SAR, then that's her prerogative. Personally, I think it's too much, and she's making life way to hard for herself. But that's just me. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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