How to teach an adult dog to come on command
#355803 - 02/19/2012 09:40 AM |
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I already gave a little background in another post, but basically up until now I have always raised/trained dogs with corrections/compulsion. I now understand that that's not the right way to do it. I also now know that that's the reason I've always had trouble getting dogs to come reliably. So, we have a 3 year old female chocalate lab that will not come reliably. If she decides she doesn't want to come, there's no getting her. She just comes when she decides she wants to. How do I go about fixing this?
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Kory
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Re: How to teach an adult dog to come on command
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#355806 - 02/19/2012 10:19 AM |
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First you can do a little exercise where one person holds the dog on a long leash and buckle collar...you run away saying her name and have a toy or treat she loves as a reward. The other person holds the leash until you say "Fido, come!" and they release...but you only call her when she is engaged and wants to go to you. When she gets to you, give her lots of praise and some treats.
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Re: How to teach an adult dog to come on command
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#355807 - 02/19/2012 12:04 PM |
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Marker training! Pup or older dog, it's great.
You can also apply it to the method Tresa mentions above.
In your comment about "she comes whey she decides she wants to".
EVERY time a dog refuses a command you just reinforce the fact that it can.
Don't call the dog when it's distracted with something else.
NEVER call the dog when your going to correct it. Dogs relate a reward or correction with the very last thing it did. What did it do? It came to you. Now your going to correct it for digging a hole? DUH! Just an example!
Sounds simple but if you think there is a good chance the dog isn't going to come, don't call it.
All will change when the dog realizes that your the source of all things good....unless you use those good things as a bribe.
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Re: How to teach an adult dog to come on command
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#355808 - 02/19/2012 12:08 PM |
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If you want to do something based on rewards instead of compulsion Kory, first thing you'll need to do is create a desire in her to come to you. I don't think a restrained recall is going to do anything except have her stay with the person who's holding her.
I'd start off feeding her treats while she sits in front of you, then slowly luring her forward while you step backwards. Create a nice comfort zone in front of you. When she likes that, start leaving her in a sit, then call her forward to that front position again from a couple steps back. Then start building on that.
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Re: How to teach an adult dog to come on command
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#355809 - 02/19/2012 12:18 PM |
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More details of what Bob and Steve are saying at http://leerburg.com/webboard/thread.php?topic_id=24332&page=1
I think that's the link. If not, then it links to it!
Marker training!
NEVER call the dog when your going to correct it.
Sounds simple but if you think there is a good chance the dog isn't going to come, don't call it.
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#355811 - 02/19/2012 01:12 PM |
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Make calling your dog a fun thing keep it up beat always happy, some good treats or a toy for reward when she does come.
Like mentioned above don't call your dog for reprimand or to do something he/she doesn't like, example for me I never call Zoey to give her a bath.
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#355815 - 02/19/2012 02:18 PM |
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Don't feed her for two days, or feed a little steamed rice with a small amount of chicken. After two days have some really yummy food in your pouch and call her ie her name/HIER/COME/ VIENS voici à moi à or whatever, just use the same command everytime. Give her a big hand full. Repeat until the meal is gone and practice it every day for the rest of her life. As stated before MAKE IT FUN, use the happy voice when she comes.
Blowing off a recall.....E Collar.
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Re: How to teach an adult dog to come on command
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#355817 - 02/19/2012 03:00 PM |
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To make a very long story short, I haven't had much interaction with this dog. It's mostly been my wife and 10 year old son. Basically all they've taught her is sit and down and very short stays. She is made to sit before walking in or out the door and before getting food. I don't think she's ever been corrected after not coming, certainly not by me anyway. When she does this and they ask me to help, I try to get her into a sit from distance and then come to her. Sometimes it works, but more often than not it doesn't. I have just ordered the marker training dvd because I have a new puppy coming and I want to do this right this time.
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#355822 - 02/19/2012 04:49 PM |
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Which DVD did you order?
" I try to get her into a sit from distance and then come to her. " I don't understand. Are you saying sit from a distance and then the recall? I would stop this and focus on the recall.
And get everyone involved on the same page.
I would probably start over on the recall with a new command, which you will find lots about in the links I gave above. I think it's tainted; too much reinforcement (human error) of the recall being optional, and nowhere near enough reinforcement of the recall meaning good stuff for the dog.
Did you order Power of Markers or Power of Food (219 or 220)?
Whichever one, I would probably study it before embarking on a do-over of your recall.
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The recall work starts with the dog close, under no distraction .... not in a park, not in a yard with people passing and dogs barking ....
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Re: How to teach an adult dog to come on command
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#355823 - 02/19/2012 04:53 PM |
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QUOTE: Make calling your dog a fun thing keep it up beat always happy, some good treats or a toy for reward when she does come.
Make an indelible link between the recall and joyful stuff.
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