I noticed in the video that training the puppy that the command is given multiple times if the pup does not sit, lay down, etc.. The trainer I used always made it a point to only say the command ONCE, and if the pup/dog did not listen or did not do the command to do it for them.
He told me that this is how they learn to do it on the first command. That when you do the command for them after they refuse to do be harsh and to put your hands quick enough to do the command for them and to get the hands off (no petting, etc..)
Would this not make more sense to do it this way? Both my shepherds were trained this way and they learned quite fast.
The puppy training video, the commands. I noticed when he would teach the pup to sit or lay down he said the command multiple times. It my training if the pup would not do it on the first command within 1 to 2 seconds I would make the dog sit or lay down.
what i learned at ME was there were no commands ( cues ) given until the behaviour was near 100 % with just the physical prompts .
the verbal was then added a moment before the physical , and then again , when the dog was responding near 100 % on cue before the physical prompt , was the physical faded out .
Get the marker training DVD or the 1st M. Ellis DVD & start over. You will be far better off & so will your puppy. You won't have to manhandle your dog into positions your will just lure into the positions wanted with no negative physical hands on stuff.
I've trained my 3 puppies( & an older dog) with this method. It works! The dogs learn to respond fast & happily to commands. In fact, they LOVE every minute of training!
Also, if it's the first one, what year is it? That video first came out about 25 years ago and has been revised several times since. What you're saying doesn't really ring a bell to me. I think I have one from the '90s and then the newest from 2006.
If it's the 2006 one, then there is a segue to marker training, but I would still urge that it be paired with http://leerburg.com/219.htm
There have been huge strides in training just in the past few years (never mind since 1986).
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Ah, Anne was posting while I was typing. I second her post (strongly).
Here's a recent post with an intro to marker training, including free articles, free eBooks, free podcasts, video clips describing the first two marker videos, and more:
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